Re: Bronica ETRS 70mm Back

["Willem-Jan Markerink" <w.j.markerink@xxxxx>]

On 28 Nov 97 at 9:25, Chris P. Gibbs Photography wrote:

> > Just noticed a 70mm back in the KEH catalogue:<
> 
> Clive,
> 
> They've had it for sale for a while now - very expensive though

A bit too expensive IMO....I have seen them go for around US$200-300 
in Europe, never for anything close to US$500. But they are rare, 
more rare than I thought, although even for US$200 it can be listed 
for more than a year before someone reacts.... 
And for less money you can get a Mamiya RB 70mm back....the only 
really expensive SLR 70mm back is for Rollei 600x.

> (especially by the time you buy all the spools, tanks etc)!  

This reminds me that I still have some 70mm gear taking up 
space....a Kindermann loader for US$100 and a Linhof loader for 
US$150. 
The Linhof unit is a surplus NATO unit, still sealed in plastic;
designed for taking up to 400' bulk rolls, and loading the
cartridges, but also fit to take a Kindermann development reel
instead of a bulk roll, and then loading from cartridge onto the
reel (the core of bulk film has the same size as the center diameter
of the Kindermann SS reel!)

The Kindermann loader has been saved from the recent Fokker Aircraft
bankruptcy, a nice historical touch (no Fokker marks/ID's
though....you'll just have to believe me....;-)). It was designed
primarily to load development reels from cartridges, but can also be
used the other way around, bulk film onto cartridges. This particular
unit is US$50 cheaper than normally, since the 'film sqeezer' is
missing, a separate part that squeezes the film just before it runs
into the development reel, where it expands to normal width inside
the spiral of the reel. It is not an absolute must to have this part,
loading the reel without it was easy.

If anyone is interested in one of these items (I only have one
Kindermann, but several of these Linhof units), please send me a
private mail, not to the list!

> I
> personally keep thinking of the "135W back" for a 24mm by 54mm image
> size (cheaper too).
> 
> Has anybody out there been shooting HIE on a 24mmx54mm back and printing
> full-frame with "sloppy black borders"?  I would think the results could
> be quite striking.  I even thought an artsy "Alternative Process" could
> really set off the image, cyanotype, gum etc.  A partially hand colored
> cyanotype or gum print would "IMHO" be a very origional and beautifull
> image.  Any comments?

Just to inspire some more people (including myself....:-)), the 
Mamiya 6 and 7 rangefinders and the Mamiya 645 also allow the use of 
35mm film.
And the 43mm on the Mamiya 7 is a very nice wide angle....on the 65mm 
wide frame it is equivalent to a 24mm lens on a 24x36mm frame....mmm....:-))

Too bad the Fuji 6x9 GSW (65mm lens) doesn't take 35mm film....anyone 
ever fabricated something to 'circumvent' the system of separate 35mm 
and MF worlds?


- -- 
Bye,

Willem-Jan Markerink


      The desire to understand 
is sometimes far less intelligent than
     the inability to understand


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