Re: xtol wrecked my HIE!

["Christina Z. Anderson" <tracez@xxxxxxx>]

BTW, not that this relates to HIE in specific, but on another list (pure
silver) I brought up the fact that Kodak has a snafu with XTol, in that you
must as said below have a minimum of 100 ml developer full strength per roll
of film or 80 sq. inches of film if doing sheets (4 sheets).  What this
means, of course, is that in a 16 oz. tank with one reel of film to develop
you can only go up to a dilution of 1:2 at most.  IN talking with Kodak,
they don't recommend higher dilutions, in fact, they recommend 1:1 as the
best because you have the greatest acutance increase going from full to 1:1.
This was a big deal to me because other teachers in my dept recommend a 1:3
dilution with Xtol as being the best.  I went ahead and did two things with
my students:  made them all use 1:1 and also NO presoak (Xtol doesn't
recommend one) which for beginning photo students is being out on a line,
but all got wonderful negatives.  So, as far as Xtol goes, it works great at
1:1, which is what the original person starting this strain said she was
using.  I also read somewhere, though that there were problems with some
batches of Xtol and I cannot remember what the deal was, but nevertheless,
here is the Kodak URL:
http://www.kodak.com/US/en/service/alphabetical/   Download the PDF from
them on Xtol at this URL:
http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/support/techPubs/j109/j109.shtml
and both sites will have a phone number for tech help that you can use
Chris
 This wouldn't explain why the 1:1 dilution failed, but if you processed a
> roll of 35mm at 1:3 in an 8 oz steel tank, then you were doomed to
failure -
> Kodak stares you must have 4oz (100 ml) of Xtol per roll of film - if you
> diluted it 1:3, then there wasn't enough Xtol in an 8oz tank.
>
> As I said before, I have had excellent results with Xtol straight - finer
> grain and very smooth tones. I have tried diluting it 1:1, but even times
up
> to 15 minutes failed to give me the density I wanted...confusing,  but as
I
> have found what works, I am content. I guess another thought is that the
> film might have been too under exposed - how was the density of the rebate
> numbers?
> Eric Boutilier-Brown


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