RE: GROUP PHOTOGRAPHY

[Robert Erickson <cirkut8@xxxxxxxxx>]

I have used them all, and never met a panoramic camera
that I didn't like! (Except the SpinShot, but that is
a different story)

I LOVE my Noblex 150F for groups of 125 or so. The
"wide angle" lens works great! It allows me to put
them into a close semi-circle. You will need to get
them into rows, the more the rows the better. For kids
I use the row sitting on the ground, a row on their
knees, a row in chairs, a row of the shortest standing
behind the chairs, a row of tallest standing behind
the shortest. Every body is stagered, that means
everyone puts their heads between two other heads.

IMHO - I believe that all 35mm swinglens camera
prodced negatives will make heads too small to print
well. They will be better than if taken with a
standard 35mm but not up to my professional standards.
The Cirkut is still the best group photography camera
ever made! That is why almost a hundred years later
they are still in use by professionals! You can not
beat a contact print. 

Bob

--- David Hibbeln <dhibbeln@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Colin Bullard [mailto:cirkutoz@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 8:27 AM
> To: Panorama-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: GROUP PHOTOGRAPHY
> 
> 
>   
> 
> East Coast Photography wrote: 
> 
> 
> I've been asked to do a group of 125 students for
> the local school - I have
> never done group photos before in such a formal
> state - could someone
> describe appropriate requirements for using a swing
> lens (read Noblex 135U)
> for such photography. regardsCraig 
>   _____  
> 
> Craig & Sue 
> East Coast Photography 
> Mail: ecphoto@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ecphoto@xxxxxxxxxx>
>  
> Website: http://web.one.net.au/~ecphoto
> <http://web.one.net.au/~ecphoto>  
> P.O. Box 80 
> FORSTER NSW 2428 
> Ph. 02 6554 9703 
> Fax. 02 6555 3615.
> 
> Craig, 
> 
> Noblex's are not the best for the job because both
> 35mm &120  have
> reliatively wide angle lenses. We have both as well
> as a Roundshot 35 35s
> and they just don't do the job satisfactorily nor do
> wide angle lens, its
> best to get a lens slightly longer than the standard
> lens for the camera you
> choose. 
> . If you have a Fuji 617 &180mm or a 4x5 &160mm or
> even a Fuji 6x9 would be
> the best. I guess that by suggesting a Noblex you
> are anticipating a
> panoramic print for your students?. 
> If you can get the use of chairs and desks from the
> school you need 49
> chairs and about 18 desks and shoot the group at 25
> chairs wide with 5 rows
> high. If this what you want email me and I will give
> you the full
> instructions on how to put the group together or
> better still come down to
> Sydney and spend some time with us and we will show
> you how to do it. Its
> really very simple as long as you can get the school
> to supply the hardware.
> 
> BTW, 
> 25 chairs front row 
> Second and third rows stand on the ground 
> Fourth row stands on another row of chairs 
> Back row stands on the desks. 
> And very importantly, the 2 rows standing on the
> ground are the tallest and
> shortest students in the group.(so that you get
> sufficient separation to see
> everyone) 
> 
> 
> However, the best camera of all and the one I use
> for nearly all my Yr 12
> groups is the venerable #10 cirkut with a 450mm
> Nikkor with the group in a
> semicircle around the camera...a beautiful big neg, 
> razor sharp from end to
> end, (because everyone is the same distance from the
> camera on the circle),
> 10" high X 34" long , faces the size of your
> thumbnail and printed as a
> contact print with exposure times of around 5-7
> secs. 
> 
> 
> Long live the #10's 
> 
> 
> Col Bullard 
> The Melba Studios Pty. Ltd. 
> Sydney Australia 
> 02 9816 4277 
>   
> 
> 
> My regards to my friend George Pearl
> too....................... 
> 
> 

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Robert Erickson, cirkut8@xxxxxxxxx
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