Re: R.B.Cycle Info - Follow-up

[ralph fuerbringer <rof@xxxxxx>]

someone suggested posting any convertibles in a 12 up category. I have a 
turner Reich 12-19-25" with matching scales in a betax with pc sync added.
good shape .The black finish on the shutter has been removed leaving a fair
brass
finish. $350
-- rof


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>From: Leonard Robertson <Leonard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: panorama-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: R.B.Cycle Info - Follow-up
>Date: Thu, Mar 23, 2000, 6:45 PM
>

> At 07:31 AM 3/20/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>Leonard Robertson wrote:
>>
>>>  Scott,
>>>
>>> I'm intrigued by the 12" and 24" scales on the bed. The common lenses
>>> on #8s were an 11"-18" double-convertible or a 10 1/2"-18"-24"
>>> triple-convertible. You may have a body that came with a special order
>>> lens. You might look on the left side of the bed for a couple of nail
>>> holes that held a third focusing scale (if the lens was a triple).
>>
>>You may be right..there look to be a total of four small holes that
>>might well have been nail holes, but have since been filled in.
>
> My 6 1/2 X 8 1/2 RB Cycle Graphic from my #8 Cirkut Outfit has a 10
> 1/2"-18"-24" Turner-Reich triple-convertible lens. The right side of the
> bed has two focus-gear scales, for the 10 1/2" and 24" lenses. The left
> side of the bed has the 18" focus scale toward the rear (1 13/16" between
> nail heads), and a front scale with a single line labeled D (7/16" between
> nail heads). This D line is the index mark for positioning the front
> standard when the camera is opened and extended. If the nail holes you
> mentioned on your camera have a similar spacing, it may indicate your lens
> was originally a triple. Another thing you might look for is any extra nail
> holes on the right side of your bed. If there don't seem to be  any, it
> would indicate the 12" and 24" scales are original to the camera.
>
> If anyone knows of a 12"-24" double-convertible or a something-12"-24"
> triple, you might post the information.
>
>
>>> Finally, if you open the front door and look up inside the top of the
>>> body, you may see a serial number stamped into the wood. I'm curious
>>> what the number is. It may help date the camera.
>>
>>It looks to be 87340.
>
> Richard Knoppow on the rec.photo.equipment.large-format USNET newsgroup
> just posted a list of Graflex serial numbers, with the note the company had
> a rather strange system. Go to Dejanews.com and search "Graflex Serial
> Numbers" if you want to see the complete post. The list gives the dates of
> #47,000 to 87,976 from 1915 to 12/5/1918. However, Jim Johnson's Cirkut
> number list shows #8 Outfits with 87xxx numbers dated from 1921 to 1924. It
> seems likely F&S might have set aside a group of Cycle Graphics for use
> with Cirkut Outfits and they weren't sold right away.
>
>
>>I got the camera as part of a studio that I bought out.  They had been
>>working with Cirkuts for many years, and retained both a # 8 outfit and
>>a # 10 camera, which I rent from them to do groups.  At one point they
>>had two 10s, at least one 8, and a 16.
>
> If the studio has an extra gearhead you can talk them out of, you might do
> so. The #8 Cirkut Attatchment, gears, tripod legs, etc. will be fairly easy
> to find, but not the gearhead.
>
> Leonard
>
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