P3D Mounting over-under prints in an album

[Ralph Johnston <copley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I ran across your letter and thought you might like to hear about my
solution to the problem.


I use 8.5 x 11" "magnetic" album pages in a 3-ring loose-leaf binder. 
There is one pair of 4 x 6" prints on a page with the ring holes to the
left.  Mount the prints touching for the required VueMagic 4" spacing. I
usually trim about 1/2" off the right end of the right print and the same
off the left end of the left print giving a pair of 4 x 5.5" prints with
a "window".


For panoramic prints, you turn the page and mount the 8 x 12" pair with
the rings on top.  There is a 1" end of the prints sticking out at the
right.  This can either be left or the prints trimmed to 11".  Some
processors print as 4 x 11" but mine uses 4 x 12".  You could also mount
two pair of 4x6" prints this way but I don't choose to do it because of
too much would stick out.


Another alternative dry-mounting using the 11 x 14" scrapbook type album.
 This will accept 2 pair of 4x6" prints per page.


An example of panoramic prints can be seen at:


http://www.ultranet.com/~copley/StereoNE/3dgallery.html


For permanent mounting for APEC III, I use 8 x 10" heavy rag paper, and
3M spray dry mount.  The label is also dry mounted on the back.


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<excerpt>Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 17:52:19 -0500

From: P3D Emil Volcheck <<volcheck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

To: photo-3d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Subject: P3D easy print mounting in archival pages

Message-ID: <<v01530504b0781d088b8a@[38.12.163.170]>


Folks,


I'm interested in quick, idiot-proof ways to mount stereo pictures,

and I think I've found one way to do this for prints.


The prints I received from Photo Works from Realist format film

are square images on 3 by 5 paper.  I put them in archival plastic

3 by 5 print pages from Century Photo in California (a mail order

photo storage supplies company, similar to Light Works, a company

previously mentioned on this list).  Sleeves are not tight -- photos

can wiggle, and rotation can destroy the stereo effect.  But since

these images are centered on paper that is too long, the sleeve is

tight enough to keep the rotation to probably half a degree or less

(I estimate 1mm over 125mm length).


The plastic pages hold four 3 by 5 photos in a 2 by 2 grid for each

side of the page.  Turning the page to landscape orientation, I put

pairs across from each other arranged right-left for cross-viewing.

I prefer left-right wall-eye viewing, but the length of the photo

paper keeps the images too far apart for me to fuse them wall-eyed.

If you understand the cycle of 3 prints in Colardeau format, you don't

have to sort and match prints first.  In this manner, you can "mount"

stereo prints as fast as ordinary prints.  I'd like to hear if this

makes sense and whether it works for anyone else.


Stereo prints in an album are great because you can pass them around,

and people can see the prints without a viewer.  If I had an easy

cross-view gadget, the format I describe above would be perfect.

However, I rather like the View-Magic over-under viewer, so I tried

to arrange the prints in my album in over-under fashion.  This works

only mediocre for two reasons: 1) photos in sleeves in this orientation

can shift slightly right-left, and this destroys the stereo effect

since View-Magic prints must be exactly vertically aligned.  As long

as the album is standing upright and the pages aren't turned
vigourously,

the photos will be aligned in their sleeves.  However this is not

robust.  2) View-Magic requires 4 inch vertical separation from top of
image

to top of image.  The separation of Photo Works images (with their own

top/bottom borders) in my Century Photo pages is 3-3/4", so there is a

little retinal rivalry, although this is pretty good if I hold the
viewer

a little further back from the page.  My wife, who doesn't free-view,

was able to see the stereo pretty well.  However this is not a stable

configuration, in contrast to the above cross-view method which

is robust against both rotation and right-left shifting in the sleeve.


I might consider asking Photo Works to print on 4 by 6 paper and trying

the same thing with Century Photo plastic pages for 4 by 6 prints (they

also make them in a 2 by 2 array, 4 prints to a side, but they are

significantly more expensive).  However, I expect that I would get
vertical

separation of slightly over 4 inches, which would also be bad for

View-Magic format.  However, 4 by 6 Realist prints mounted directly

on paper might qualify for APEC, since these could be seen with a

View-Magic viewer, just like twin 35mm prints.  I think it is easier

to paste 4 by 6 prints together top-bottom aligned than to do this

for 3 by 5 prints with space between them to get the 4 inch vertical

separation.


Please help me work out the best way to do this print mounting!  Has

anyone tried something like this before?


Are there good cross-view devices for pictures with about 5-1/2"

separation from left border to left border?


Are there plastic pages for 3 by 5 prints that load from the side 
rather

than from the top?  or that have 1/4" more vertical separation (in
landscape

orientation) than Century Photo pages?


Thanks,


                                --Emil Volcheck




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