P3D Re: C3D (was:Ban everything not specifically 3D?)

[Larry Berlin <lberlin@xxxxxxxxx>]

>Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998
>From: Bob Wier writes:
>
>I've been considering over the past few days whether to start
>a sub list to join T3D (the technical 3d list which frequently
>contains relatively high powered discussions of optics and neural
>aspects of true3d) and S3D (for selling things). Tentatively this
>might be C3D (for discussions related to true3d in the computer realm).
>
>Pros: .......... Thus the computer oriented could help
>the photography oriented who are interested in coming up to speed on
>current technology (and vice versa).
>
>................ It is also possible that 
>the charter could open up additional topics not currently encouraged
>in photo-3d such as SIRDS and (possibly?) holography. ..........
>
>Cons: There is the prospect of excessive "Balkanization" of the photo-3d
>lists where everyone is off in their own niche and the amount of 
>communication/information being exchanged is degraded. If C3D
>grows significantly, a new moderator may be necessary. There may
>be a problem trying to keep true3d discussions in C3D and minimize
>the 3d modellers from taking over the place because of the confusion
>related to "3D" as noted here in the past (*that* aspect would require
>a firm moderation hand!). 
>
>Neutral: as now, membership in all lists would be available on 
>an ack/digest optional basis, subscriptions could be made to any/all lists,
>and the upkeep of the mailing list(s) will be provided free and
>sponsored by Rocky Mountain College and me.
>
>===========================================
>
>...................... can anyone think of a better
>name than C3D (Computer 3D?) which might be more representative? 
>Ideally it should be x3D to go with P3D, T3D, and S3D. (Maybe 
>D3D for *digital* 3d)?
>.........................

The ideas sound great. There is a transition taking place and it will
continue for a long time. The additional group seems unlikely to degrade the
overall value of P3D, but more likely extend it. I think of it like channels
on TV, only this network of channels is 100% delightfully 3D. The biggest
issue is the time to keep up with all of it. Since that seems impossible
anyway, it's good to know that what might be wanted at any time is nearby. A
big *Thank You* to those involved in operating the lists.

Some of the potentially *non-stereo* 3D aspects of computer work actually
have a lot of value to stereo, as long as that output form is the overall
intent of the information. The major difference is in whether you render
one, two or more images. If the image is originating from within the digital
realm it is necessary to have models and other objects to fill up a scene.
Like in P3D you can use one, two or more cameras, or cameras with one, two
or more lenses. Some discussion of software might be appropriate too, as
basically it is a good thing to encourage more use of stereo with computers
and that means to some degree adding stereo know-how to the software tools.
In the digital realm software takes the place of hardware such as
projectors, viewers and mounting tools, and the image media itself.

Hopefully this group could be attractive to current computer 3D involved
persons looking to take the next logical and delicious step into stereo.
Most have no idea about how to do it, but can figure it out with a bit of
coaching. If this new discussion topic could attract this group of new
talent, expect some lively and creative discussions and related growth in
both the group size and in general stereo interest. It is useful to have the
camera oriented discussions available on P3D to balance and expand the
learning curves whenever it's relevant.

As to the name, I like the D3D or Digital 3D option best. However, if
Holography is a potentially included topic it wouldn't explicitly be
complete, but it's certainly technically oriented. You can't use Tech3D
twice though! SIRDS discussions seem appropriately digital and 3D.

Count me in.

Larry Berlin

Email: lberlin@xxxxxxxxx
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