P3D Comparing Revere's

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A couple of years ago I found a Revere 33 camera which
looked nice on the outside but had a (known) shutter
problem. I decided to buy it nevertheless, being quite
sure that I could fix that. After disassembly it turned
out to be that one of the former owners of this nice
piece of equipment had his first 'dremel and glue'
experience on this one. There was even some kind of
blistering glue in the shutter mechanism. Whole parts
of the interior were filed away. There were screws
missing and broken. I decided to keep it for all that.

Last week I bought another Revere 33 from the first
owner. He bought it back in 1961, new, in the USA.
This time I had a lot more luck. It works flawlessly and
it looks great. I always have thought that the Revere
only had one type of 'body' and three variations on
a lens theme (Wollensak, Enna Chromar and Amaton).

Closer inspection of the two camera's revealed a lot
of differences however. Have a look for yourself :

                        Serial number
                        -------------

V-7752                                 V-30925
------                                 -------


                     Wind and rewind knob
                     --------------------
- Matte                               - Semi shiny
- Arrow on rewind                     - Arrow + word 'REWIND'

                       Distance scale
                       --------------
- Shiny                               - Matte
- Indoor color 1/25                   - Type F 1/25 only
- SM/SF Flash                         - "5 Clear Flash
- Small red characters                - Bigger red characters
- 4/5.6/8/11/16                       - 5.6/8/11/16/22

                          Hot shoe
                          --------
- 'Sides' are matte                   - 'Sides' are shiny
- Big bump in the middle              - Flat middle contact
  (As usual)                            (NOT filed down !)
- Four 'nuts' around central          - No nuts
  contact.                              Extra contact
- No stop at the far side             - 'Stop' at the far side

     ||-----------||                        ||-----------||
     || o       o ||                        ||    ---    ||
     ||           ||                        ||   -----   ||
     ||    (0)    ||                        ||  |     |  ||
     ||           ||                        ||  | (0) |  ||
     ||           ||                        ||  |     |  ||
     || o       o ||                        ||  | o   |  ||
     ||-----------||                        ||-----------||
                                                  ^
                                                  |-- dedicated ?

                          Shutter
                          -------
- MFX Synchromatic                    - MFX Revere Synchro Prontor
- 'Small' scale (matte)               - Larger scale (shiny)
- T/B/2/5/10/25 (red)                 - 200/100/50 (black)
                                        ('pointer' at 50)
- 50/100/200 (black)                  - 25/10/5/2/B/T (red)

                          Lenses
                          ------
- Wollensak Revere 35mm               - Revere 35mm f/3.5
  f/3.5 (W) Amaton (matte)              Enna Chromar (shiny)
- 3.5/4/5.6/8/11/16/22 (large)        - 3.5/4/5.6/8/11/16/22 (smaller)
                                        ('pointer' between 5.6-8)

                       Shutter cocker
                       --------------
- 5 rims                              6 rims

                          Inside
                          ------
                                      - Horizontal, small 'bar' in
                                        right film chamber

                          Loading
                          -------
- Mark on central sprocket            - No mark

          ^    ^
- Before  |    | loading              - Loading instructions
          ------
  1. Revolve sprocket until dot         1. Turn winding knob until
     is between arrows                     it stops
  2. Turn winding knob until            2. Revolve knurled take-up
     it stops                              spool until slot is up
  3. Revolve knurled take-up            3. Insert film-Close cover
     spool until slot is up -->            Press shutter button. Wind film
                                           Press shutter button. Wind 2nd.
                                           Press shutter button. Wind 3rd.
  4. Thread film. Close cover.          4. Set film counter dial on number
     Advance film twice. Advance           one for first exposure
     for first picture

                        Rewind axis
                        -----------
- Chrome                              - Black

                       Take-up spool
                       -------------
- Curved part: 12mm                   - Curved part: 11mm

                        Film gates
                        ----------
- Square corners                      - Rounded corners

                       Pressure plate
                       --------------
- Flat, black                         - Chrome, with grooves

                Mark (arrow) for right picture
                ------------------------------
- 13mm from right (right gate)        - 8mm from right (right gate)

                        Lock on left
                        ------------
- Black nuts                          - Chrome nuts


I admit, these are not all world shaking differences, but then again.
What surprises me most are the 'hot-shoe', no bump, and the extra
flash contact. I've never seen a Revere without a bump (life, in books,
www). The extra flash contact, is it meant for a dedicated flash ?
The newer camera came with a Revere type 24 flash unit with a 'raised'
foot, which fits nicely. Also the finishing, matte vs. chrome, black vs.
chrome, different lettering, loading instructions and so on.

Can anybody out there, who is more knowledgeable than me, shine
some light on this ?

Thanks very much for your time.

Cheers,

Peter A.J. van Zuijlekom
GouDDDa
The Netherlands



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