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P3D Re: Comparing Revere's
On 5 May 98 at 2:08, PZuijlekom@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Last week I bought another Revere 33 from the first
> owner. He bought it back in 1961, new, in the USA.
> This time I had a lot more luck. It works flawlessly and
> it looks great. I always have thought that the Revere
> only had one type of 'body' and three variations on
> a lens theme (Wollensak, Enna Chromar and Amaton).
>
> Closer inspection of the two camera's revealed a lot
> of differences however. Have a look for yourself :
I just had a look at mine (No. V-0005697) and it appears to look like the
one described in the left column. It appears that Peter has quite a late
model. Does any other list-member have a Revere in the number 30xxx +
range who can confirm this?
I also compared it with my Wollensak (No. 21955). I am quoting Peter's
description of the two Revere's and insert some details of the Wollensak:
> Serial number
> -------------
>
> V-7752 V-30925
> ------ -------
>
>
> Wind and rewind knob
> --------------------
> - Matte - Semi shiny
> - Arrow on rewind - Arrow + word 'REWIND'
WOLLENSAK: There's also the word "Rewind" on the rewind knob, but also the word
"Wind" on the wind knob.
> Distance scale
> --------------
> - Shiny - Matte
> - Indoor color 1/25 - Type F 1/25 only
> - SM/SF Flash - "5 Clear Flash
> - Small red characters - Bigger red characters
> - 4/5.6/8/11/16 - 5.6/8/11/16/22
WOLLENSAK: matte, Indoor Color 1/25, SM/SF Flash, small chars., 4/5.6/8/11/16
>
> Hot shoe
> --------
> - 'Sides' are matte - 'Sides' are shiny
> - Big bump in the middle - Flat middle contact
> (As usual) (NOT filed down !)
> - Four 'nuts' around central - No nuts
> contact. Extra contact
> - No stop at the far side - 'Stop' at the far side
>
> ||-----------|| ||-----------||
> || o o || || --- ||
> || || || ----- ||
> || (0) || || | | ||
> || || || | (0) | ||
> || || || | | ||
> || o o || || | o | ||
> ||-----------|| ||-----------||
> ^
> |-- dedicated ?
WOLLENSAK: looks like the left one above.
> Shutter
> -------
> - MFX Synchromatic - MFX Revere Synchro Prontor
> - 'Small' scale (matte) - Larger scale (shiny)
> - T/B/2/5/10/25 (red) - 200/100/50 (black)
> ('pointer' at 50)
> - 50/100/200 (black) - 25/10/5/2/B/T (red)
WOLLENSAK: MFS Synchromatic, otherwise not comparable.
> Lenses
> ------
> - Wollensak Revere 35mm - Revere 35mm f/3.5
> f/3.5 (W) Amaton (matte) Enna Chromar (shiny)
> - 3.5/4/5.6/8/11/16/22 (large) - 3.5/4/5.6/8/11/16/22 (smaller)
> ('pointer' between 5.6-8)
WOLLENSAK: not comparable.
> Shutter cocker
> --------------
> - 5 rims 6 rims
WOLLENSAK: 5 rims
> Inside
> ------
> - Horizontal, small 'bar' in
> right film chamber
WOLLENSAK: no "bar".
> Loading
> -------
> - Mark on central sprocket - No mark
>
> ^ ^
> - Before | | loading - Loading instructions
> ------
> 1. Revolve sprocket until dot 1. Turn winding knob until
> is between arrows it stops
> 2. Turn winding knob until 2. Revolve knurled take-up
> it stops spool until slot is up
> 3. Revolve knurled take-up 3. Insert film-Close cover
> spool until slot is up --> Press shutter button. Wind
> film
> Press shutter button. Wind
> 2nd. Press shutter button.
> Wind 3rd.
> 4. Thread film. Close cover. 4. Set film counter dial on
> number
> Advance film twice. Advance one for first exposure
> for first picture
WOLLENSAK: like Revere model on the right
> Rewind axis
> -----------
> - Chrome - Black
WOLLENSAK: black
> Take-up spool
> -------------
> - Curved part: 12mm - Curved part: 11mm
WOLLENSAK: same as Revere. Diameter of take-up-spool core: 9.5 mm
> Film gates
> ----------
> - Square corners - Rounded corners
WOLLENSAK: round corners
>
> Pressure plate
> --------------
> - Flat, black - Chrome, with grooves
WOLLENSAK: chrome, with 5 raised strips (as Revere on the right)
> Mark (arrow) for right picture
> ------------------------------
> - 13mm from right (right gate) - 8mm from right (right gate)
WOLLENSAK: 8mm from right
> Lock on left
> ------------
> - Black nuts - Chrome nuts
What do you mean by "lock on left"??
> I admit, these are not all world shaking differences, but then again.
> What surprises me most are the 'hot-shoe', no bump, and the extra flash
> contact. I've never seen a Revere without a bump (life, in books, www).
> The extra flash contact, is it meant for a dedicated flash ? The newer
> camera came with a Revere type 24 flash unit with a 'raised' foot, which
> fits nicely. Also the finishing, matte vs. chrome, black vs. chrome,
> different lettering, loading instructions and so on.
>
> Can anybody out there, who is more knowledgeable than me, shine
> some light on this ?
Although I am no Revere expert, I would say that it's either a late Revere
using some Wollensak parts, or a prototype model for an "improved" Revere.
alex
Alexander Klein
3D-Magazin, Editor (http://www.stereoscopy.com/3d-magazin)
Webmaster: http://www.stereoscopy.com
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