P3D Point and Shoot

["Andrea Blair" <asblair@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

>>>>Andrea Blair wrote: I understand and can appreciate your reasoning 
behind using the term, but I think it's a tad confusing since, according 
to the three explanations I have read so far, every camera can 
perceivably be a P&S.<<<<

>>>>Bob Maxey wrote: Regardless of the explanations you have read, this 
is not true. I started selling cameras in 1973...long before the term 
Point and Shoot was coined. The term was used to describe a camera that 
was descriptive of the term Point and Shoot. These cameras were designed 
to be as simple as possible. Remember, the term is a new one to some 
extent. The 110 and 126 cameras were not described as point and shoot - 
even though they could be used that way.<<<<

I really don't consider all cameras P&Ss. {:>)  I only agreed based on 
the *explanation* that once you set the camera for a particular 
situation that you can shoot to your hearts content without adjusting 
anything (P&S style), UNTIL something changes (a cloud goes over the 
sun, the subject moves out of your set focus range, etc.). Once any 
element changes and you have to adjust some knob, it becomes a manual 
camera again. 110 and 126 (I even had a 127) formats are classic P&Ss, 
even before the term was used. *Point* and *Shoot* (as my initial 
objection that started this thread stated). Easy. 

>>>>And the idea that every camera can be described as a point and shoot 
camera is wrong. Are you telling me a Circkit Camera, an 11 X 14 View 
Camera, a Mitchell 35mm Movie Camera and a Colorama Camera are Point and 
Shoot Cameras? Hardly. Point and shoot is just that. You point it and 
press the button. BTW: I use my Leica CL as a Point and Shoot Camera, 
and hardly ever use the Rangefinder. I rely upon the focusing Scale to 
indicate focusing. If I were to use my Realist in that way, the slides 
would be even worse than they are when I point, estimate exposure, focus 
and compose, select the required shutter speed and do everything as it 
should be done (But not now, mine has a broken lens).<<<<

I have no idea what most of the cameras you listed are. {:>) Can any of 
them be set once and take two or more shots under the same conditions 
without resetting *anything*? If so, then by George's and Mike's 
definition, it is (or rather, is used *as*) a P&S.

Anyway, I think you get the point that I really don't agree that a 
Realist (or any other camera with adjustable settings) is a true P&S, 
although some (if not most, or all) can be used *like* a P&S under 
certain (and perhaps very limiting) circumstances.

Andrea Blair

p.s. Sorry to hear about your Realist. I'm sure George T. could fix you 
up with another one in a pinch for a modest exchange of currency. {:>)

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