Re: [photo-3d] Re: CGI

[Herbert C Maxey <bmaxey1@xxxxxxxx>]

I SAID:

> > I fear that one day - hell, NOW, we can't be sure that any image 
> we see
> > has not been manipulated in some way. I am not talking about 
> correcting
> > sharpness, exposure or color, but lies told using not words, but 
> images.


DEERING SAID:

> I will repeat, for those who post without reading, that images in 
> magazines are routinely 
> sweetened.  This means that stray hairs, backgrounds, skin texture, 
> shadows and reflections are 
> routinely manipulated with a computer for artistic reasons.
> 
> But this has been true for a _century_.  The list of ways that 
> reality is routinely mainupated with 
> traditional photography is long and familiar.  All without a 
> computer:

> -Leave the shutter open longer, and moving people disappear 
> altogether.

We used to shoot interiors like this. LONG exposures and a ballroom full
of dancers disappear. Nothing new here. In this case, it was done because
we wanted the room interior not the people. 

> So this bias against computer-tainted photography is just a tad 
> hypocritical.  How is it any 
> different to change the texture of a model's skin with a computer 
> than to do the same thing with 
> cornstarch powder?

If you read again, my comment that started it off was if it was OK to
enter computer generated images as photographic images. I did not say CG
was bad, just not to be allowed in a contest devoted to photographic
images. Then the discussion evolved and changed.


As for me not reading - the error you seem to be saying I made, I KNOW
THIS AND I SAID THIS: I used to do this with dyes, Spot Tone and an
airbrush. I also mentioned mechanically stripping off each layer and
reassembling it. In the old days, this was done primarily for creating
advertising images. The big fear is that with digital images, it is
effortless to make changes in the original image to serve an end. This is
wrong because it is a photographic lie. It has nothing to do with if
digital is bad or not - it has to do with how the technology is used.

Bob