Re: Konica IR versus Kodak HIE

[eml@xxxxxxxxx]

> 
> Edward-- you hate grain, hate halation, hate Kodak infrared? you are
> belittling photographers who use the film, but you want respect? there is too
> much hate going on in your life. Relax and shoot what you want & let other
> photogs. shoot what they want without criticizing them. Photography should be
> rewarding, creative, and enlightening--be enlightened.
>                                                                     joe
> 

Never happen!  I would rather do about anything else than belittle
anyone else as a photographer.  I felt, though, that the HIE crowd
was sounding a bit religeous and interjected a few well-known
facts about HIE. (Need we also mention IER, which I LOVE, but
which uses Process E-4, obsolete these long 20 years or so, and which
gets ever more expensive as unit production costs increase because
most casual users like me prefer not to go to the trouble of
developing it?  So instead, we drop using it, Kodak sells less, etc.)

I could care less what people use.  True, I do have preferences; they
are materials and processes that I find reliable.  But I NEVER tell
someone that they are the ONLY RIGHT WAY to do things.  I also am 
without religeon regarding equipment, using Linhof, Yashica, Zeiss-
Ikon, Braun, Kodak, Minolta, or Topcon equipment pretty much
interchangeably, depending on what I want to accomplish.  I admire
Leicas; I have never seen a sufficient preformance edge in image
quality to mortgage my soul to buy one because I can put the money 
to far better use...  In my opinion.  Occasionally I will  rub a
Leicamaniac the wrong way when he spouts Leica advertising copy
like the Trevi Fountain spouts water... It's fun!  Try it!
They get SOOOOOO MAD!  But then, that is not reasoned discussion.

So I will never knowingly object to anyone using anything.  But, so
long as I express a view based on readily available fact, and in 
an open way, without criticism of PEOPLE, I feel that I am 
injuring no-one, starting or adding to healthy discussion, and 
perhaps presenting an alternative point of view to other readers.
People who take offense may contact me and I will do as I am doing now.
I will state that my personal views are my own, restate why, and
ask their pardon if they feel offended.  My own experience with
HIE is fact.  That which I observed is fact.  I don't like the stuff
for MY PERSONAL STYLE.  Fact!  Should this offend?  I don't
think it should.  We are all adults here, even the youngest of
our friends, or they would not be interested in these minutae
of their hobby/profession/art.  I am certain that they can read
all of our submissions, try for themselves, and decide whether
or not one film or technique or process fits THEIR INDIVIDUAL
style.  We're all trying to "improve the breed".  This is best
done by exchange of often-opposing views.  Agree or oppose
as you like.  I, too will listen, try, and accept or reject
the suggestions of all comers. I feel no pain if my views are 
not widely accepted.  Why should I?  We're all different. 

Ed Lukacs



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