Re: thoroughly confused now

[marvin barrow <mbarrow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

At 09:38 AM 4/27/97 +0100, you wrote:
>>On Sat, 26 Apr 1997 18:28:12 +0100 (WET DST), Bill Agee wrote:
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>>|all for infrared is perfect.  Twelve years of shooting infrared
>>|conveniences me that one exposure will not work.  Infrared is not that
>>|forgiving a film.
>>
>>And forty years of shooting IR convinces me that you're right about
>>one exposure not fitting all situations but dead wrong if you think
>>that White is advocating shooting everything the same way.  What she
>>says, as Karen clearly stated, was that runing a test roll this way
>>will give you a consistent benchmark against which to judge how you
>>should be exposing for various situations.
>>
>>Others in this group have followed White's advice and evidently found
>>it rewarding.  (I haven't tried it.)  But just as there are many
>>developers one can use with HIE, and a change in developer may imply a
>>change in printing technique or effective speed rating, so there are
>>many ways to come to grips with the peculiarities of the HIE medium
>>and each may imply a difference of approach.  White has one.  You have
>>one.  You're both right to the extent that either method my prove
>>effective if it corresponds well with the way a particular
>>photographer approaches the craft.
>>
>>Bob Long
>>(boblong@xxxxxxxxxxx)
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>Well, excuse me!  I say this is a tough group.  Bob, I will certainly take
>a deep bow to your forty years with my paultry twelve, however, I know what
>I read.  Unless this thread has been going on for 40 years--I have only
>been on the list a week or so--Karen, in a post entitled "thoroughly
>confused now"--and I certainly am, said that White, who's book I have never
>read, advocated exposing HIE at 1/125 at f 11.  I was responding to that
>statement.  There was no additional qualifier about "runing a test roll
>this way as it will give a consistant benchmark..."  That is new
>information...maybe from White's book?
>
>Sorry, Bob, I thought I was trying to help the lady. That's a congenital
>problem after having taught the subject for a sometime now.   Obviously I
>steped into the middle of a more elaborate conversation than I thought.  My
>apologies to all who I offended...I think I'll keep my mouth shut for a
>while and see what the local ground rules are here.  They seem a bit
>different from other email forums that I've seen.
>
>Karen, the information I gave you was used to take all the infrared photos
>on my web site.  Anyone who cares to check them out is welcome.  I will let
>my images speak for me.
>
>Bill Agee
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>BILL AGEE
>Laguna Beach, California           http://www.redsilver.com
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Bill,
I have visited your site. I think they are outstanding IR images.
Marvin Barrow


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