Fw: Of possible interest...

["Tim Rudman" <tim.rudman@xxxxxxxxxx>]

I sent this yesterday but it hasn't turned up on my screen so I'll repost it
. Apologies if it arrives twice
Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Rudman <tim.rudman@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <infrared@xxxxx>
Sent: 14 June 1999 09:47
Subject: Of possible interest...


> I had the following e-mail yesterday which I thought might be of interest
to
> the group in view of various postings about Rodinal recently - also the
> thread on contrast issues that came up
> Tim
> PS you might be interested in his page too.
>
> (although I don't often post to the group, I do follow it with interest as
> IR has been a special interest of mine for some 30 yrs (ouch) )
> ---------
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tim Rudman <tim.rudman@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: Chris Woodhouse <chris.woodhouse@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: 14 June 1999 09:34
> Subject: Re: Lith look alikes
>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Chris Woodhouse <chris.woodhouse@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <tim.rudman@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: 13 June 1999 21:48
> > Subject: Lith look alikes
> >
> >
> > > Tim,  I had a happy accident last week.  I grossly overexposed a Kodak
> > High
> > > Speed Infrared film and then developed in Rodinal.  The negative was
> > almost
> > > entirely black, all the tones were pushed up into the shoulder of the
> film
> > > curve.
> > >
> > > Not to be defeated, I slapped the Analyser on it and printed a high
key
> > > effect at Grade 4 for about 4 minutes.  Wonderful subtlety with very
> well
> > > defined gritty grain.  Many people at my club thought the Sepia
version
> > was
> > > a lith print.
> > >
> > > The outcome of this happy mistake is that I can take a range of Kodak
> HIE
> > > exposures and choose the one whose contrast matches my fixed grade
> Kentona
> > > / Art Classic papers simply by using the shoulder round-off as a
> contrast
> > > modifier.
> > > best regards Chris Woodhouse MEng
> > > email chris.woodhouse@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Darkroom support homepage   www.users.zetnet.co.uk/ktphotonics
> > >
> >
> > A few points Chris,
> >
> > -Rodinal is famed, or notorious according to your view, for producing
very
> > heavy grain on 35mm HSI
> >
> > -I have used the compressed range of mistreated HSI a different way,
using
> > under development to give a thin grainless neg. which prints delicate
high
> > key with a suitable subject on a high contrast. My use was with pre-dev
> > bleaching on IMG @ G5 to give bright luminous highlights against soft
mid
> > greys and low values with no blacks.
> >
> > From your description I would guess that the similarity to a lith print
> > would fall short of the soft creamy grain free highlights alongside the
> > higher contrast grain in the lower tones?? ("soft in the H/Ls - hard in
> the
> > shadows" etc)
> >
> > Tim
> >
> >
>

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