Re: Escaping the grey world - NOT!

["Willem-Jan Markerink" <w.j.markerink@xxxxx>]

On 29 Mar 00 at 12:36, Charles Andrew wrote:

> Hi!  I have filed a request to have my name removed from the e-mail list.
> My interest
> is in medical aspects and I am not interested in fine art or small flaws.
> Chuck

Nobody said medical aspects of IR didn't belong on this list....feel 
free to dabble about that topic in great depth....seems you haven't 
told us all about that yet....;-))

But, even though I enjoy a philosophical note from time to time,
it's not something to discuss deeply & extensively on this
list....and the sloppy quoting of the participants (there were 4
admin-footers in your message!) doesn't help with tolerance from
other members either. See text further down for what I once wrote 
about this quoting, and quoting-order in particular....

So, as long as your focus stays on IR, nobody will mind an
occasional philosophical blur....but no heated political or
religious debates please. 

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From:             "Willem-Jan Markerink" <w.j.markerink@xxxxx>
To:               infrared@xxxxx
Date sent:        Wed, 5 May 1999 18:31:13 +0000
Subject:          Admin stuff (was: bulk film holders, IR safe?
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Dear gang,

Lately I notice that several members are putting the quoted text
below the actual reply, which is not recommended. 
At first this might sound like silly nit-picking, but it is actual
part of Netiquette, and for more than one (good) reason, all closely
related to each other:

1) a longer thread with multiple messages/replies is very hard to 
read/edit in the reverse order of quote/reply

2) in the reverse order, you can't create a line-for-line (or
alinea-for-alinea) reply, you will have to quote all, followed by a
single alinea of reply....this is often neither efficient
(unnecessary quoting), nor to the point, making things harder to 
read.

3) if you reply on top, there is a good chance you don't even notice
how long the section is you quoted, since you hardly see it. Proof
of that is often found in the inclusion of the admin-footer, which
will then appear twice....to me, and many others, this is considered
pretty sloppy behaviour.

4) while such sloppy quoting might not affect real-time readers much, 
it is a pest for the digest....one has to skip long irrelevant sections 
to get to the next message....again very inefficient.


Some of you might still not see all this as a real problem, since
the traffic on this list isn't very high, but please keep in mind
that many members read several other mailinglists & newsgroups as
well, and all these bits of unnecessary inefficiency add up to a
considerable amount of wasted time & energy, sometimes even
resulting in  a message that gets no secondary reply at all (no
matter how relevant or necessary that reply would be....the more 
editing needed to create a sensible reply, the lower the chance of 
getting one).

So please stick to the most logical order, and keep quotes to a 
minimum, for reading & distribution efficiency.
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--                 
Bye,

Willem-Jan Markerink


      The desire to understand 
is sometimes far less intelligent than
     the inability to understand


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[note: 'a-one' & 'en-el'!]
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