[MF3D.FORUM:1094] Re: Miniturization.

["Bill Glickman" <bglick@xxxxxxxx>]

Dr. George

> That's correct if by "desired effect" you mean stereo effect.
> But there is something else here called "realism", which has
> always been one of stereo photography's strongest points.  The
> "realism" is reduced when you deviate from the so called "ortho
> stereo" conditions.  One of these conditions is that the spacing
> of the lenses matches the spacing of your eyes.
>
> So, what are you going to go for?  Stereo effect or realism?

       Well, unfortunately both, but maybe I was dreaming.

> A lot depends on your subject.  If your subject is a scenic,
> the scale of which is unknown to the viewer, no one will notice
> the increased stereo base and a mild hyperstereo will look
> very nice, deep and real.  But if you want to include people,
> cars and familiar everyday objects, your viewers might notice
> the hyperstereo effect.

       Yep, the one shot a few people commented on was some antique cars in
front of an old hotel....  The cars look completly real to me....meaining
looking through the viewer was exactly what I saw when I took the
picture.....  perfect...then others start telling me the cars look like
matchbox cars.... I was shocked, and the base was very small, like 175 mm.
So it was not hyper hyper stereo, just a tad larger than 65mm.

> >Is this a very small part of the population that experiences
> >miniaturization, or a healthy part of the population?

> It is hard to tell.  This is noticed more often by
> beginners.

      Are you saying that if you maintain a 65mm stereo base this effect
rarely is noticed, even with beginners?

Seasoned stereo photographers become
> immune to such effects.  I always considered such
> comments as a positive thing because they demonstrate
> that the viewer is comparing the stereo picture with
> the real thing.  There are three other types of comments
> in this category: 1) People look "frozen" or statues.
> 2) Cardboard effect (people or animals look like cardboard
> cutouts),

         Is the cardboard cut out look also as a result of hyper stereo?


 The beginners who
> make these comments have a strong & healthy stereo perception,
> which is good.  I would be wondered about those who don't
> see these effects (is that you Bill? :))

        Yes, I never saw this except in a few slides, and even then, the
effect was margianl, meaning it did not jump out at me, I had to study it to
notice it...


 I noticed the cardboarding effect in my
> first Realist stereo pair, but I don't see it any more.

      What did you do to get rid of it?

Regards
Bill G