Re: Simon: Nazi Colors

[Simon Nathan <simonwide@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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            **time-out** démarrer quand je mentionner que je travailler film "
bataille
            Grande-Bretagne " filmer 1968 dans Espagne et repos au sujet 10fps à
grande
            vitesse simonwide qui faire 2-1/4x5 " sur 70mm image ju-52. ce acft
faire dans
            Espagne jusque 1955 et espagnol airforce peindre nazi couleur là peu
de bon
            couleur film pour ww-2.....so je deviner un panoramique expérience
mener un autre
            Simon nathan




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dusariez wrote:

> Please will somebody explain to me what comes, in this panoramic exchange
> list, do the NAZI COLORS saga ? Maybe am I to, low in english reading (my
> mothertongue is french) or simplly too stupid. Thanks in advance for any
> reply. Michel DUSARIEZ
>
> >Simon,   I hope I don't get to many radicals coming out of the wood-work
> >with this one! but your mention of 'nazi colors' reminded me of an
> >encounter with single mindedness that I can't not pass on.
> >       I was on the island of Ebeye, at Kwajalein Lagoon, where the USArmy
> >still
> >shoots ICBM's from Calif. (did you ever get to Kwaj' or Ebeye?  You know, I
> >may have been crew on one of your C-130 Typhoon Chaser flights with the
> >54th Weather Squadron out of Guam). In Kwaj I met a German fellow who is a
> >world-class (his statement) model builder.  He was 12y.o. at the end of
> >WWII and the American occupation.  He became enamoured with the German
> >Battleship Prinz Eugen, which was involved in the battle which sank the
> >British ship HMS Hood. According to German gentleman (who I'll call Fred to
> >make things easier) the Prinz Eugen hit the Hood first, and it may have
> >been fires caused by P.E. hit that caused the HMS Hood to explode, NOT a
> >hit from the Bismark. It was better(?) PR for both UK and Hitler to claim
> >that the Hood was sunk by Bismark rather than possibly the Prinz Eugen.
> >Fred built a 1/100 scale model of the PE which was detailed very well. He
> >finally decided he must visit the watery grave of the PE to see it himself.
> >Turns out the PE was captured at the end of WWII, towed to USA where it was
> >repaired and then sailed with a mixed US/German crew to Majuro in the
> >Marshall Is. It eventually was used as a test ship in TWO A-Bomb blasts,
> >reportedly within one mile of ground zero.  The P.E. did NOT sink!.  US
> >towed the now glowing (just a joke!?) ship to Kwajalein for atomic decay
> >testing. There it began to leak. They tried to save it by running aground
> >on an island in the lagoon but only the stern got to the island slope
> >before the ship wouldn't move. The stern sank, water went to the bow, the
> >bow sank and the ship flipped upside-down as it slid down the underwater
> >slope of the island a bit. Today the stern stick out about 20 feet with the
> >bow at about 110 feet, all upside down.  Very strange to dive. One of the
> >BIG props still stick up out of the water. So Fred comes to Kwaj' (where
> >you can't stay unless you are military) and ends up in a tiny 0-Star (makes
> >Motel 6 look like the Taj Mahal) on the sad island of Ebey where the US
> >Army has shoved all the people they pushed off the home island of Kwaj'
> >(all in the same Lagoon, but NO water on Ebey! you can throw a rock in
> >ocean on both sides, and about 6000 people live in a place about 4 blocks
> >square with no place more than 6 feet above sea-level.  Typhoons are no fun.
> >       Fred has copies of the original TOP SECRET plans of the ship when
> >we meet
> >him at lunch after diving with our local guide who is Japanese/Marshall
> >Islander/Scotch!, name of Hideo, who knows the ship inside and out.
> >       Fred has just flooded his borrowed video camera and asks for pics
> >from me.
> > I agree to shoot him on the ship the next day.  We arrive only to have him
> >unfurl a HUGE swastika flag while standing on the upthrust propeller shaft:
> >
> >http://www.guam.net/indepth/kwajlan/ebeye/
> >
> >and later with him standing on the bottom at the stern of the ship.
> >
> >       He Says:  "I'm claiming the flag for the Third Reich!"
> >
> >       "I don't think that's possible," I say, as to the best of my
> >knowledge it
> >doesn't EXIST!
> >
> >       Later we talk about islanders and politics, with Fred saying that the
> >Marshallese islanders deserved to be over-run by the USA, that they should
> >have been tougher and fought for what they believed (BTW: Fred now lives in
> >S. Fla! USA). I pointed out that at the end of WWII that the Russians want
> >to transport everyone with more than a high-school education to the prison
> >camps, effectively destroying Germany, and that it was the same Americans
> >that had mistreated the Marshall Islanders that saved the Germans from the
> >Russians.
> >       Nothing is black and white except lithographs.
> >
> >Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:58:29 -0500
> >From: Simon Nathan <simonwide@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: Re: Web Page
> >To: panorama-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Monica Rotgans <monicar@xxxxxxxxx>
> >Reply-to:      X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I)
> >
> >dear tony-thank you for your support!
> >
> >Tony wrote:
> >This forum has got a deal more interesting since Simon joined it. This guy
> >is a veritable goldmine of photography information. I don't mind the fancy
> >fonts at all so long as I can read them.
> >
> >I'd love to see Simon do a web site too.  Can't some of you guys in U.S.
> >help him if he's willing? i simply don't understand it yet. sfo-jesse has a
> >nifty page and i saw it for the first time today. i complimented him
> >directly lest anyone find something to resent or obsess about. i have
> >written about offering a color of ju-52 in nazi colors   to german aviation
> >group  but know where i sent it. it was about 10fps highspeed simon/wide.
> >film runs horizontally. rotary shutter, hulcher built 12 years befor first
> >hulcherama. two camera are not related, just in same sentence. trannie (and
> >i am smiling) about same as imax format. the fonts are not fancy. they are
> >large so i can read them, that's what. in fact i cannot  write long hand.
> >i am glad to share what i have learned from others because didn't i have
> >help from masahiko fuketa at nikon  in japan and life photog late george
> >strock and frits rotgans of holland. there is wonder lesson from frits
> >selling his business and the guy thought  if he had frits' camera he'd have
> >frits' magic. what's the dutch word for hmmmpf? simon nathan
> >
> >
> >
> >My 2 cents
> >
> >Tony Andrews
> >
> >At 09:16 PM 2/17/1999 +0000, you wrote:
> >>Please avoid all this fancy letter crap and discuss photography
> >
> >At Your Service,
> >                         Mitch Warner
> >
> >In-Depth Photography: GUAM
> >On the Land, In the Air, Underwater, Everywhere!
> >HomePage: <http://www.guam.net/indepth>
> >PostCards: <http://postcards.guam.net>
>
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