Re: Simon: Nazi Colors

[dusariez <dusariez.pano.optic@xxxxxxxxx>]

Please will somebody explain to me what comes, in this panoramic exchange
list, do the NAZI COLORS saga ? Maybe am I to, low in english reading (my
mothertongue is french) or simplly too stupid. Thanks in advance for any
reply. Michel DUSARIEZ



>Simon,   I hope I don't get to many radicals coming out of the wood-work
>with this one! but your mention of 'nazi colors' reminded me of an
>encounter with single mindedness that I can't not pass on.
>	I was on the island of Ebeye, at Kwajalein Lagoon, where the USArmy
>still
>shoots ICBM's from Calif. (did you ever get to Kwaj' or Ebeye?  You know, I
>may have been crew on one of your C-130 Typhoon Chaser flights with the
>54th Weather Squadron out of Guam). In Kwaj I met a German fellow who is a
>world-class (his statement) model builder.  He was 12y.o. at the end of
>WWII and the American occupation.  He became enamoured with the German
>Battleship Prinz Eugen, which was involved in the battle which sank the
>British ship HMS Hood. According to German gentleman (who I'll call Fred to
>make things easier) the Prinz Eugen hit the Hood first, and it may have
>been fires caused by P.E. hit that caused the HMS Hood to explode, NOT a
>hit from the Bismark. It was better(?) PR for both UK and Hitler to claim
>that the Hood was sunk by Bismark rather than possibly the Prinz Eugen.
>Fred built a 1/100 scale model of the PE which was detailed very well. He
>finally decided he must visit the watery grave of the PE to see it himself.
>Turns out the PE was captured at the end of WWII, towed to USA where it was
>repaired and then sailed with a mixed US/German crew to Majuro in the
>Marshall Is. It eventually was used as a test ship in TWO A-Bomb blasts,
>reportedly within one mile of ground zero.  The P.E. did NOT sink!.  US
>towed the now glowing (just a joke!?) ship to Kwajalein for atomic decay
>testing. There it began to leak. They tried to save it by running aground
>on an island in the lagoon but only the stern got to the island slope
>before the ship wouldn't move. The stern sank, water went to the bow, the
>bow sank and the ship flipped upside-down as it slid down the underwater
>slope of the island a bit. Today the stern stick out about 20 feet with the
>bow at about 110 feet, all upside down.  Very strange to dive. One of the
>BIG props still stick up out of the water. So Fred comes to Kwaj' (where
>you can't stay unless you are military) and ends up in a tiny 0-Star (makes
>Motel 6 look like the Taj Mahal) on the sad island of Ebey where the US
>Army has shoved all the people they pushed off the home island of Kwaj'
>(all in the same Lagoon, but NO water on Ebey! you can throw a rock in
>ocean on both sides, and about 6000 people live in a place about 4 blocks
>square with no place more than 6 feet above sea-level.  Typhoons are no fun.
>	Fred has copies of the original TOP SECRET plans of the ship when
>we meet
>him at lunch after diving with our local guide who is Japanese/Marshall
>Islander/Scotch!, name of Hideo, who knows the ship inside and out.
>	Fred has just flooded his borrowed video camera and asks for pics
>from me.
> I agree to shoot him on the ship the next day.  We arrive only to have him
>unfurl a HUGE swastika flag while standing on the upthrust propeller shaft:
>
>http://www.guam.net/indepth/kwajlan/ebeye/
>
>and later with him standing on the bottom at the stern of the ship.
>
>	He Says:  "I'm claiming the flag for the Third Reich!"
>
>	"I don't think that's possible," I say, as to the best of my
>knowledge it
>doesn't EXIST!
>
>	Later we talk about islanders and politics, with Fred saying that the
>Marshallese islanders deserved to be over-run by the USA, that they should
>have been tougher and fought for what they believed (BTW: Fred now lives in
>S. Fla! USA). I pointed out that at the end of WWII that the Russians want
>to transport everyone with more than a high-school education to the prison
>camps, effectively destroying Germany, and that it was the same Americans
>that had mistreated the Marshall Islanders that saved the Germans from the
>Russians.
>	Nothing is black and white except lithographs.
>
>Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:58:29 -0500
>From: Simon Nathan <simonwide@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: Web Page
>To: panorama-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Monica Rotgans <monicar@xxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-to: 	X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I)
>
>dear tony-thank you for your support!
>
>Tony wrote:
>This forum has got a deal more interesting since Simon joined it. This guy
>is a veritable goldmine of photography information. I don't mind the fancy
>fonts at all so long as I can read them.
>
>I'd love to see Simon do a web site too.  Can't some of you guys in U.S.
>help him if he's willing? i simply don't understand it yet. sfo-jesse has a
>nifty page and i saw it for the first time today. i complimented him
>directly lest anyone find something to resent or obsess about. i have
>written about offering a color of ju-52 in nazi colors   to german aviation
>group  but know where i sent it. it was about 10fps highspeed simon/wide.
>film runs horizontally. rotary shutter, hulcher built 12 years befor first
>hulcherama. two camera are not related, just in same sentence. trannie (and
>i am smiling) about same as imax format. the fonts are not fancy. they are
>large so i can read them, that's what. in fact i cannot  write long hand.
>i am glad to share what i have learned from others because didn't i have
>help from masahiko fuketa at nikon  in japan and life photog late george
>strock and frits rotgans of holland. there is wonder lesson from frits
>selling his business and the guy thought  if he had frits' camera he'd have
>frits' magic. what's the dutch word for hmmmpf? simon nathan
>
>
>
>My 2 cents
>
>Tony Andrews
>
>At 09:16 PM 2/17/1999 +0000, you wrote:
>>Please avoid all this fancy letter crap and discuss photography
>
>At Your Service,
>                         Mitch Warner
>
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