Re: Horseman SW 612 plus ralph jefferson neidlinger

[Simon Nathan <simonwide@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

joel- the shift on horseman is more of a selling
feature. on 4x5 it ain't much  even if the lens did cover. one list
member said 15mm shift. bfd. that's 7.5 mm each may. the late, great frits
rotgans and simon used to talk late into the night, sitting in his living
room in amsterdam. i forgot about a second camera he womped up for me.
he was good and he shared his skill with that unskilled american. my theory
was we get the film transport mechanism and build forward. frits didn't
tech me about off center mounting of lens on 8x10 view cameras. it was
ralph jefferson neidlinger at 1940's mayfield photos. he showed me on the
ground glass how to get more of  the circle of coverage without the
tilt. no danged camera magazine can show ya that this reality is practical
and important. back to frits. because he is drinking french water (wine)
he is patient with me. i've traded stuff with him so that i now have a
plaubel 120 film magazine vintage of lindberg's plane. 6x9. ya got that?
what i wanna have is maximum travel within  image circle. voila. it
is off center and you simply turn camera upside dow for rise, opposite
for max drop. the sneaky part is the lens covers in the first place. to
get good stuff from this 90mm angulon simply center it. this was done by
frits, handcraft from used plywood  and whole darn lensboard on dutch
window glides slides either way. it was tight, really tight, no tensioning
screws.    simon nathan
by the way, this was before marty forscher
did my first model super wide to have a rising from. took two years of
begging and pleading and a further threat, that i would tell people he
did great bronica repairs. and me i'm not that brilliant as i'd heard about
ralph steiner's such from david b. eisendrath.

Joel Seaman wrote:

Don,

Thanks for the reply.  Horseman also makes a new camera body with shift,
one I didn't buy.  Horseman doesn't bother telling you that the 45MM lens's
image circle really doesn't allow you to use the shift feature, although
shift would work with the longer lenses.  It is a royal pain not knowing
what one can really count on.  Sometines the fall off is minimal, and
occassionally even helpful.  But when one really wants to count on the full
6X12 one must rely on prayer.

joel