Re: Epson Roll Paper Holder

[ralph fuerbringer <rof@xxxxxxx>]

-- rof

tue i wrote : the catch in printing continuous 13x44 pannoramas was the ink
supply, Ernest Dinkla pointed out a more sinister catch: the cartridges are
unique and unrefillable.  Does anyone really think this first epson effort
in archival printing inks & pape is even the best today much less
tomorrow and tomorrow? This is the suicidal  620 principle: Kodak put its
120 film on a smaller spool only its cameras could use . Did it again&again:
bantam, instamatic, 110 too. Twice corporate greed wasnt the the order of
the day: besides  h-8 there was the  phillips audio cassette free to all who
made it up to standard. There is now the distinct possibiliity that the
epson 1270 will die like the 620 Kodak Medalist half a century ago, a camera
with potential to
be the 6x12 120 camera in front today.
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>From: Ernst Dinkla <ernst@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: panorama-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: Epson Roll Paper Holder
>Date: Tue, Mar 28, 2000, 11:54 AM
>

> In <URL:news:lokaal.panorama> on Tue 28 Mar, ralph fuerbringer wrote:
>> Alan & Sheri Kafton inquired about continuous printing of 44" panoramic
>> prints on the 1270 epson.  The catch is the ink supply.  According to the
>> epson specs available on their name site the 1270 ink capacitity  is only
>> minisculely better than the 1200. They rate by  8x10s,a  44 incher close to
>> 8 of these.  They dont say if ink cartridges size is different just
>> longer lasting in stability, an advertising play they couple with a new
>> heavier paper.  obviously this ink and paper will be for all their line
>> after the intro hype is over. The cartridges may even be the same size as
>> the price seems the same.  One other point: its not really flush  if you
>> look at their advertising pictures and specs, just about 1/2 closer than the
>> 1200 gets.
>> -- rof
>
> The 1270 etc printers have another catch. The ink carts have a chip with
> a unique number. When they are empty you can't refill them if you would
> like to do that. (There's the theoretical possibility to exchange the
> empty carts with other 1270 users).The Epson 1270 ink/paper combination
> is however the first archival set that Epson themselves ever delivered.
> Wilhelm rating: 10 years for gloss, 25 years for matt IIRC. Good enough
> given the test conditions Wilhelm uses. But this chip prevents the use
> of any other archival or other ink combination you may have used before.
> And the price of the ink etc. isn't so nice. So it may be wiser not to
> get the last generation of the smaller Epson printers if you want
> cheaper archival prints. On the other hand the quality of the 1270
> prints seems to be very high, even compared with the 1200.
> There are third party continuous ink supply systems available for the
> generations before the 1270. The chip will also prevent those systems
> to work. If you can live with the price of the ink and the amount you
> may expect third party papers in the future that will give the same life
> expectancy with the Epson inks. If you print a lot the 3000/7000/9000
> are more economic, roll fed and with a wider choice of inks and papers.
> More visible dots though...
>
> There will be a hack one day but it isn't easy.
>
> Ernst
> --
> Ernst Dinkla  Serigrafie,Zeefdruk            The point will never be metric
>