Re: PHOTO-3D digest 1397

[P3D George Arnold <g73@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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> 
>                             PHOTO-3D Digest 1397
> 
> Topics covered in this issue include:
> 
>   1) Ultimate 3D TV
>         by P3D Eric Muller <emuller@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>   2) slide copier
>         by P3D Sam Beavin  <sbeavin@xxxxxxxx>
>   3) Re: Is Water Archival?
>         by P3D Jim Crowell <crowell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>   4) Anaglyph Swatch watch
>         by P3D  <baker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>   5) Re: Is Water Archival?
>         by P3D Bill Burns  <billb@xxxxxxxxx>
>   6) Special interest 3D anaglyph
>         by P3D Marvin Jones  <72657.3276@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>   7) Re: TDC Selectron Gate Hang-Ups
>         by P3D Elliott Swanson  <elliott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>   8) Re: TDC Selectron Gate Hang-Ups
>         by P3D Elliott Swanson  <elliott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>   9) WTB: Viewmaster "Model D" viewer
>         by P3D  <Photo3D@xxxxxxx>
>  10) Survey Saaays: Thanks
>         by P3D  <GCCampos@xxxxxxx>
>  11) RV: JVC 3D Laser Discs
>         by P3D =?iso-8859-1?Q?Rub=E9n_Torrej=F3n_Us=E1n?=  <RUBEN10219@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>  12) JVC 3-D Laser Discs
>         by P3D =?iso-8859-1?Q?Rub=E9n_Torrej=F3n_Us=E1n?=  <RUBEN10219@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>  13) Hyperfocal differences Realist vs. Revere 33
>         by P3D  <scooter@xxxxxxxxxx>
>  14) I'm back!!!!
>         by P3D Patrick Boeckstijns <pboeckst@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 18:13:36 +0100
> From: P3D Eric Muller <emuller@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: photo-3d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Ultimate 3D TV
> Message-ID: <v01510102adf86eaa667e@[193.149.100.46]>
> 
> X-Sender: emuller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 18:08:17 +0100
> To: emuller@xxxxxxxxxxx
> =46rom: emuller@xxxxxxxxxxx (Eric Muller)
> Subject: Ultimate 3D TV
> 
>                         A simple one camera & no-glasses system
>                              for Television & Cinema
> 
> As everybody here knows, many companies around the world are carrying out
> experiments with 3D television. Some have even been trying to market
> products, with limited success up to now. Most of them use high but
> expensive technologies, prohibiting their use for consumer products.
> 
> Today, I am proud to introduce a new and original technology : The Alioscopy=
> ..
> 
> The inventor, Pierre Allio, is French.
> He acts as a private individual.
> 
> As a sculpture restorer for France national museums, he once felt the need
> for a three-dimensional representation of the sculptures. He then began
> making stereoscopic still pictures and soon got the idea of a 3D television
> system.
> 
> One of the main common objectives of the researchers was to conceive a
> light and easy to use camera system enabling live transmission. He did it.
> 
> It was also necessary to make an ergonomical system: allow the viewer to
> move freely, get rid of the usual glasses and improve the visual comfort of
> the viewer. He did it.
> 
> Above all, He thought companies needed a low cost and easy to industrialise
> system. He did it.
> 
> To put it bluntly, his process surpasses every other known system. At the
> very least, it does  anything other systems do, only better and cheaper.
> And it can do much more. Actually, it opens a new page in the history of
> three-dimensional visualisation.
> 
> Pierre Allio has now taken out eight patents in Europe, North America,
> Japan and Korea.
> 
> As it is frequent with very innovative technologies the first licensees, in
> 1995 and 1996, were from the military sector (National Defence Ministry
> /DRET, for teleguidance in mobile terrestrial robotics and Sextant
> Avionics, for aviation simulation and display systems).
> 
> Today, the Alioscopy system is ready to leave the lab and Pierre Allio is
> ready to talk business.
> 
> He is currently adapting his invention to cinema, making it easy to
> implement in existing movie theaters ! 3D movies without glasses,everywhere
> !
> 
> In fact, we sincerely believe that the Alioscopy will revolutionise the way
> people look at a screen, making it more than ever like a window on the
> world. It's just a matter of time.
> 
> I am at your disposal to evaluate the possibilities of business
> relationships in every conceivable field, from video games to endoscopy.
> 
> Just keep in mind that he is not selling products but licences.
> 
> But I am certainly not a specialist in 3D myself, especially compared to
> most of this group readers. I can probably not give more explanations about
> the Alioscopy system than what you will find bellow.
> 
>                                                                    Eric Mull=
> er
> 
>                              THE ALIOSCOPY IN BRIEF
> 
> More than a technique, the Alioscopy is a system. It's encode/decode logic
> is very different from the usual stereo vision one (2 eyes/ 2 cameras).
> 
> Independent from technical standards, the system was developed and
> validated on low tech basis (1 standard CCD camera, 1 VHS VCR, 1 cathode
> ray tube display=8A). Many high tech hardware configurations can also be
> imagined, according to the expected results.
> 
> The use of already existing equipment also enables technicians to operate
> the system without any special know-how.
> 
> The Alioscopy is hard to believe (and understand) as long as one hasn't
> seen it with it's own eyes. Sorry. Here are some key aspects :
> 
> - The Alioscopy is a no-glasses (auto stereoscopic) system using special
> lenticular sheets both at capture and image display.
> 
> - It needs only one standard single-lens camera to provide at least four
> self-converging points of view. Among many advantages, this enables
> Alioscopic images to be viewed by many people moving freely in front of the
> screen, without any head tracking system.
> 
> - Alioscopic images can be easily generated by computer.
>   The system also gives the possibility to extract and visualise the third
> dimension from real 3D data bases (simulation, medical imagery, games=8A).
> 
> - Taking into account the expectations of the vision neurophysiology, the
> Alioscopy offers a surprisingly satisfying resolution and great visual
> comfort.
>   It avoids the side effects, like nausea, often reported with some systems
> and virtual reality HMDs.
> 
> - Alioscopic images keep their original definition when viewed in 2D.
> 
> - The Alioscopy does not interfere with VCRs, cable or transmission equipmen=
> t.
>   It works with any TV broadcast signal standard and on the Internet.
> 
> - The Alioscopy works in any light conditions and in infrared.
> 
> Eric Muller
> 35, Rue du Professeur Victor Pauchet
> 92420 Vaucresson
> =46rance
> Tel/Fax: (33-1) 47 95 19 15
> emuller@xxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 09:31:23 -0700
> From: P3D Sam Beavin  <sbeavin@xxxxxxxx>
> To: <photo-3d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: slide copier
> Message-ID: <9606271712.AA29699@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> I've got a Bowens Ilumitran that I haven't used in a while.  it has all
> the masks 35mm and 2 1/4 plus the box for 4x5's.  Included  is a 50mm f/4
> El Nikkor and a very nice Nikon F body and adapter rings to mount Nikon
> and Pentax screw mount lenses.  It is very nice and works 100%.  I just
> haven't used it in ages and should be somewhere it can do some good.
> Value is around $550.00 but if you are interested lets talk.
> --
> Sam Beavin
> sbeavin@xxxxxxxx
> P. O. Box 2249
> Bothell,  WA     98041-2249
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:30:21 -0800
> From: P3D Jim Crowell <crowell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: photo-3d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Is Water Archival?
> Message-ID: <v02130502adf8136d38cb@[128.32.90.29]>
> 
> At 1:01 AM 6/27/96, P3D Mark Josephson wrote:
> >
> > I
> >highly recommend saltwater storage to anyone who can find the rare
> >plutonium staticmaster.  A 30 gallon tank can safely store about a
> >thousand slides.
> >--
> 
> Wouldn't work over here; Berkeley is a nuke-free zone.  Maybe
> after I move to that abandoned mine in Colorado I've been
> eyeing....
> 
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> If more people started doing this, it would certainly add
> excitement to the NSA convention.  Get two slide carousels  too
> close together and KABLOOIE!   :-)
> 
> -Jim C.
> 
> ------------------------------------------------
> Jim Crowell
> School of Optometry
> 360 Minor Hall
> University of California
> Berkeley, CA 94720-2020
> (510) 642-7679
> jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> http://john.berkeley.edu/IndividualPages/jim.html
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 96 13:59:06 CDT
> From: P3D  <baker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: photo-3d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Anaglyph Swatch watch
> Message-ID: <9606271859.AA28409@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> I attended a collector's preview of the fall/winter Swatch line last night
> and was pleased to discover that a watch with anaglyph graphics is being
> introduced in September.  It's called "3-D Experience" and will come with
> special packaging that includes 3-D glasses.
> 
> A sample was not available; all I saw were photos.  The packaging appears
> to be little more than a cardboard sleeve over the usual plastic Swatch
> container, and the glasses appear to be integrated with the packaging --
> perhaps like a detachable punch-out.  There are anaglyph graphics on the
> box, too, so I don't think it will be as if we will look _through_ the
> packaging at the watch, but who knows?
> 
> The anaglyphs are simple line drawings of space-related objects (rockets,
> stars, moons, etc.) on a white band & face.  The execution lacks quite a
> bit -- vertical allignment isn't square with respect to the watch (although
> maybe that aids viewing the watch while the viewer is wearing it on the
> left arm :-).  In fact it _almost_ looks like Swatch didn't know what they
> were doing when they designed it.  But, I think this will be a great
> collectible for people with either (and in my case, both) interests.
> 
> Suggested retail price is $40.
> 
> Interesting to note that I met two guys at this event who own Realists.  I
> had brought along a View-Master viewer with two reels I shot recently of
> Nadia Comaneci signing her Olympic Legends Swatch watch at the same store,
> which were well received by the Swatch reps (several of whom appeared in
> the views) and other Swatch collectors.  And to top it off, to view the
> pictures of the new anaglyph Swatch, I used Reel-3D's business card -- the
> one with the built-in anaglyph glasses!
> 
> Paul Baker, Naperville, IL  pebaker@xxxxxxxxxx
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 16:54:05 -0400
> From: P3D Bill Burns  <billb@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: photo-3d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Is Water Archival?
> Message-ID: <31D2F4ED.3CAD@xxxxxxxxx>
> 
> P3D Jim Crowell wrote:
> >
> > Wouldn't work over here; Berkeley is a nuke-free zone.
> 
> Surely there's still a LITTLE Berkelium in Berkeley?
> 
> --
> 
> Bill Burns
> Long Island : NY : USA
> billb@xxxxxxxxx
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: 27 Jun 96 17:01:16 EDT
> From: P3D Marvin Jones  <72657.3276@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: Photo-3D Mailing List <photo-3d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Special interest 3D anaglyph
> Message-ID: <960627210115_72657.3276_EHM38-1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> It occurs to me that some people on the list might be interested in an anaglyph
> 3D page I maintain on my website. It features a 3D picture, changed monthly (or
> whenever I get around to it), of semi-nude male models from the 1950s,
> originally shot by "physique" photographer Bruce of Los Angeles. They are
> typical '50s style photos, really tame and tasteful by today's standards, but
> still not kiddie fare. You can access the 3D page directly at
> http://home.earthlink.net/~hunkvideo/bruce3d.html To go into the site through
> the front door, eliminate the last file name (everything from the final "/" to
> the end).
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 16:55:31 -0700 (PDT)
> From: P3D Elliott Swanson  <elliott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: photo-3d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: TDC Selectron Gate Hang-Ups
> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.960627164147.31323A-100000@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> Stephen Warren asks re Selectron light shutter hang ups... I had this
> same problem. There's a little sheetmetal arm inside that can get bent.
> The way I fixed mine, which also allowed me to clean it of the
> accumulated gunk and old grease (and then relube) is to remove the screws
> and drill out the rivets that hold the sides together. DON'T drill out
> the rivets that hold the spring clips or any other parts that are secured
> to the side of the unit.
> 
> When the unit is apart, straighten out the light shutter, and the shutter
> arm.
> 
> Use 1/4 inch 4/40 pan head screws to replace the rivets. This will mean
> tapping the block of metal the sides are secured to, as well as the sheet
> metal side panels. To get the unit so you can get it back into the
> projector, you will have to grind the heads of two of the screws flat to
> about 1/64 inches thick. It will be obvious which ones.
> 
> Before you do any of this, check for some obvious jam, like a piece of
> film stuck inside. Also, you might want to try and dunk it in naptha to
> remove grease, and relube. Naptha is extremely flammable. You might get
> lucky and just need to remove crud.
> 
> But if the shutter isn't moving freely due to being bent. You've got
> about 45 minutes of work to tear it apart and straighten things.
> 
> For informational purposes only. Do any of the above at your own risk.
> 
> Elliott
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 16:59:06 -0700 (PDT)
> From: P3D Elliott Swanson  <elliott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: photo-3d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: TDC Selectron Gate Hang-Ups
> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.960627165601.31323C-100000@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> BTW, I made an assumption that a Selectron used in a 116 is just using a
> 716 adapter to make it work in the 116. If there was a special Selectron
> made just for the 116, I'm not familiar with the device.
> 
> Elliott
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 00:02:24 -0400
> From: P3D  <Photo3D@xxxxxxx>
> To: photo-3d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: WTB: Viewmaster "Model D" viewer
> Message-ID: <960628000223_226763652@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> Interested in a Viewmaster "Model D viewer" in very good to excellent
> condition.
> 
> E-mail to Joe (Photo 3D@xxxxxxx)
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 02:49:09 -0400
> From: P3D  <GCCampos@xxxxxxx>
> To: photo-3d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Survey Saaays: Thanks
> Message-ID: <960628024908_423466335@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> Just wanted to say thanks to all of you who responded to my inquirey about
> slide mounts.  I do half frame (Nimslo) mounts and will soon be trying full
> frame (with various cominations of argus cameras - I'll update later).  I've
> tried the slip in and albion mounts (tough to use) from reel 3d and wanted to
> hear more about EMDEs and the RBTs before I make the investment.
> 
> What a great resource you all are!
> 
> Thanks again.
> Grant Campos
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:29:49 +-200
> From: P3D =?iso-8859-1?Q?Rub=E9n_Torrej=F3n_Us=E1n?=  <RUBEN10219@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "'photo-3d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <photo-3d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RV: JVC 3D Laser Discs
> Message-ID: <01BB64E5.A7926C20@xxxxxxxx@webhouse>
> 
> ----------
> De:             Rub=E9n Torrej=F3n Us=E1n[SMTP:RUBEN10219@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Enviado:        viernes 28 de junio de 1996 11:00
> Para:           'photo-3d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Asunto:         JVC 3D Laser Discs
> 
> A few years ago, JVC released in Japan a 3D system for home video using =
> LaserDisc technology. Many of the most popular 3D movies became =
> available in LD, using the known field-sequential technique. Some of =
> those LDs were reportedly available in the United States.
> 
> Does any of you, folks, know were could I find some surviving Laser =
> Discs using this process?. I would buy from particulars or from =
> companies that still might stock them.=20
> 
> I don't know if JVC Japan could be of some help.
> 
> Ruben  =20
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:33:33 +-200
> From: P3D =?iso-8859-1?Q?Rub=E9n_Torrej=F3n_Us=E1n?=  <RUBEN10219@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "'photo-3d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <photo-3d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: JVC 3-D Laser Discs
> Message-ID: <01BB64E5.B3412520@xxxxxxxx@webhouse>
> 
> A few years ago, JVC released in Japan a 3D system for home video using =
> LaserDisc technology. Many of the most popular 3D movies became =
> available in LD, using the known field-sequential technique. Some of =
> those LDs were reportedly available in the United States.
> 
> Does any of you, folks, know were could I find some surviving Laser =
> Discs using this process?. I would buy from particulars or from =
> companies that still might stock them.=20
> 
> I don't know if JVC Japan could be of some help.
> 
> Ruben  =20
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 23:38:54 -0700
> From: P3D  <scooter@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: photo-3d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Hyperfocal differences Realist vs. Revere 33
> Message-ID: <199606280638.XAA22702@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> I've been using a Revere 33 for many years.  I use the hyperfocal
> guide when I focus.  Recently I got a Stereo Realist from Dr. T
> (thanks again, George!).  I was examining the hyperfocal table on the
> inside of the lens cap and the focusing ring of the Realist and it
> didn't seem to correspond with my memory of Revere 33 allowances for
> depth of field.
> 
> I pulled the Revere out and examined it and compared it to the Realist
> camera.  The Revere 33 has much more generous tolerances for allowable
> range of 'sharp' focus at a given f stop.
> 
> Both of these cameras have 35 mm lenses.  Is it possible that the
> design of the Revere lens allows for greater depth of field at a given
> f-stop, or is it merely that the David White Company was more
> conservative in their computations and recomendations?
> 
> I have one of the earlier Realist cameras (with I believe run of the
> mill David White Co. 3.5 lenses).  Ser No. on the Realist is A37721 if
> that helps at all.
> 
> What gives?
> 
> Steve Owsley
> San Francisco.
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 05:02:06 +0200
> From: P3D Patrick Boeckstijns <pboeckst@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: photo-3d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: I'm back!!!!
> Message-ID: <199606281506.RAA22999@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> So,
> I'm back from Chicago and I've had a really good time.(the weather really
> sucked though!)
> 
> 1) My friends took me to see "Wings of courage" at the Navy Pier IMAX.
> It works with these helmets using LCD technology. Very impressive. Then you
> realize what GOOD 3D can contribute to the film medium. The only anoying
> thing was having objects or people too "close", so my eyes "jerked" a few
> times switching from foreground to background and vice versa, trying to
> focus. Very unpleasant. I've seen 3D cinema a few times in the past but
> allways under poor
> projection conditions and this was truly a revelation.(and the dog was soooo
> cute :-)).
> 
> 2) The shutter-jammed TDC VIVID my friends found for me for 68 US: I managed
> to repair it myself. Don't ask me how I did it but it works fine now. Except
> for :
> -It has a small light leak (like Tim Smith's).
> -One immage is slightly brighter than the other allthough both diaphragm
> seem to be "in synch". Maybe some 10th of millimeters make a difference.
> Looking at them in a vieuwer one can't se the problem. Pehaps we should call
> it "Lightmaster" like the "Stereo Graphic" with it's lenses at different
> focus was called dephtmaster. :-)
> -Can anyone tell me how they use an electronic flash on the VIVID. Just like
> Tim i'd like to find an adaptor to make the camera work on a standard flash.
> 
> 3) And last but not least..... I met our 3D-HERO : The one and only Dr. T.
> who is not only a 3D authority but a trully, totally, absolutely charming
> person.(Am I overdooing it George ?);-) I'm glad, although we only spoke
> briefly, I met him. He actually accepted to make time for me while traveling
> around with his family. Thanks George !
> Patrick.
> 
> 
> 
> P. BOECKSTIJNS
> VUB Service for Foreign Students
> Pleinlaan 1         1050 BRUSSEL
> BELGIE
> Tel. 32 2 6292309
> Fax. 32 2 6292362
> 
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