Photos from Loreo 3D

[P3D Enrique Criado <ecriado@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi !
        
        Here is a new fan of photo-3d, and my first question,
    I have purchased recently and Loreo 3D camera, but now I want to
    make a little exposition in my country , here in Spain.
        
        The problem is, with my Loreo comes a visor, but I want to
   use larger fotographs, more than 10x15 cm, but how can I do to leave
   all the people see my photos, without the visor ?, is posible to make
   other visors, but who and how can make other lenses ?(think all photos
   mounted in a wall...)
        
        Gretings,
        Enrique.



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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 19:48:11 -0400
From: P3D Gabriel Jacob <jacob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: photo-3d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: 3Discover
Message-ID: <199608282348.TAA05231@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

>From: jacob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Gabriel Jacob)
>Subject: 3Discover
>
>3Discover Update
>
>Well last week I said I would check out the display of the 3Discover at the
>Olypmic stadium over the weekend here in Montreal, but all I found was there
>other product from Wrebbit, namely their 3d puzzles. There was no rep there 
>either so I didn't get anywhere. Today August 28, I decided to pay them a
visit.
>I didn't realize how close to my work and home they are! About 1 mile. I went 
>there during my lunch hour and got a colorful brochure about there product and
>also saw the product. I realize many of you have it already but here is my 
>observations. It is very light considering it has a motorized slide mechanism 
>and two AA batteries. The color of the slides was excellent and the slides 
>themselves had good 3d effect. The design is well thought out and comfortable 
>to use. You press the right button lightly to advance forward or the left
button 
>to reverse the sequence. It positions you to the next slide automatically.
They 
>use as the brochure states, a microprocessor-driven advance mechanism which
>precisely positions the full-frame 35mm film in both forward and reverse modes.
>If you keep either left or right button depressed it will fast forward or
reverse
>The motor action is quick and reponsive. Actually to fast for me since I
ended up jumping two frames instead of one if I kept the button depressed a
moment to long. 
>The slides seem unmounted and uncut in a film cartridge that is one piece.
Just 
>think of the 110 film cartridge system but in 35mm format and with to windows
>instead of one.  Their are 12 3d pictures in each cartridge. The cartridge
comes
>slides out very easily. On the left spool of the cartridge is a picture of the
>subject matter of the film and on the right spool is a description of the 12 
>individual pictures. Oh yea batteries are included. The literature says the
lens
>is a patented precision-ground optics featuring specially desgned adjustable 
>aspherical lenses for distorsion-free viewing.
>I am curious to know what special feature their patent covers on aspherical
>lenses. As for how who and how they take the pictures, it seems they have
>their own people assigned to take pictures of all the different subjects they
>are interested in. No freelancing for us it seems yet! Maybe someone can fill
>me and the group on how it worked with the viewmaster on this matter.
>As for what camera they used, they said just regular 2D cameras mounted
>on a bar. Thats it. No special secret developed camera.  
>Finally I noticed it is made in Canada! I mention this because its
>pretty unusual to see a product like this for consumers to be made in Canada
>or the US. It usually would be designed in North America then assembled
offshore. 
>The viewer is distributed by Wrebbit Inc. and manufactured by 3D Vision
International.
>I tried to get some info on 3D Vision International and how they got
together with
>Wrebbit Inc. From what I could gather it seems 3D Vision was a small Canadian
>company starting out with this new idea for a viewer and to bring it to an 
>international market they would need a big company with international
experience.
>They approached Wrebbit since Wrebbit would likely be interested in the 3d
viewer 
>since they are the inventors and producers of the 3d puzzle. Wrebbit bought the
>rights to the product and 3Discover is the result. 
>Thats all the info I have right now on it but hopefully in a couple of weeks I
>should be getting more insight into the product, the history or technical info.
>
>P.S. No I don't work for the company or own stocks in it. :-(
> 
>>>Gabriel Jacob writes
>
>>>I might be missing something here but is it really that hard to view full
>>>frame slides with viewers? I have converted my viewmaster toy to view full
>>>frame slides years ago....
>
>>>George Themelis writes
>>>I took out the whole part of the front of the viewmaster and mechanism inside
>>>and adapted it to hold the large cardboard mount. In front of that I have the
>>>viewmaster diffuser. It works very well. You can view both slides fully
in the
>>>viewer and the quality of the slide and 3d effect is very good.
>>George Themelis writes
>>Excuse my skepticism, but I don't see how lenses that were selected to
>>cover the VM 12 mm x 12 mm image size will work well for 24 mm x 36 mm
>>full-frame slides, when much larger lenses used in Realist format viewers
>>will not do it.
>>
>>Perhaps our definition of "works well" is the problem here?
>>
>
>Yes I can understand your skepticism with modifying a viewmaster 
>for viewing 35mm slides, it does sound far fetched and that is 
>why I attempted it! Another reason is because if I showed people
>my 3d full frame slides with regular modified slide viewers their
>reaction, is what is that. But when they see a modified viewmaster
>they know what it is pretty readily. Getting back to how come it works,
>I think its because a Realist format viewer probably has a higher 
>magnification power (correct me if I a wrong) so it has more to do
>with that, than the actual diameter of the lens. If you notice when
>looking in a viewmaster there is alot of empty space around the 
>picture but it is all black, so normally its not noticed. I use that
>space to advantage with the 35mm slide :-). I made a minor error in
>my post that you can see completely the slide. In actuality there is 
>about a total 10 percent loss on the outer edges of the slides but the
>top and bottom of the slide are in clear view. The 10 percent loss is
>not noticeable thou because the image is so large. There is also not
>observable distortion or abberations. They really use a good lens in 
>that viewmaster for the money it costs. Now that I have seen the 3Discover
>I really did not see much of a difference between the two in size or quality!
>Of course this can't be possible but thats what I observed. The only
>thing the 3Discover had that I liked what that the colors were very deep
>but of course this has nothing to do with the viewer optics. 
>I did have to dremel parts of the inside of the viewmaster to increase the
>field of view. Also dremeled out the left side of the viewmaster opposite
>the lever so that it could accomodate the cardboard mount. It goes in one 
>way and can come out the other side where the lever used to be.
>Ironically I have another viewmaster that I have modified where I have
>chopped of the viewmaster lens with the housing portion and put 8X magnifiers
>intended for examining 35mm slides. I use this viewmaster for viewing 
>viewmaster reels! The image is better and bigger than the viewmaster lens.
>I can't use the 8X lens for the 35mm slides because the coverage is less than
>60 percent.
>I would like to hear what others have done with their viewmaster.
>I have a viewmaster clone that I bought recently that is the worst and
>thats why I bought it. I will describe it in another posting because I
>think I have gone on long enough.
>
>Bye for now.   
>
>I don't abuse my viewmaster, I modify their behaviour. ;-0 
> 
>Gabriel Jacob  
>jacob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> 


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