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[P3D Gabriel Jacob <jacob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Dr. George A. Themelis

>Now, when I talk about "Realist-format" I don't mean the Realist image 
>size necessarily (5-p).  I mean the standard 101 mm x 41 mm frame that 
>takes both pairs.  You can mount almost any 35 mm film image, from 
>half-frame Nimslo to full-frame SLR in one of those mounts today.  I do 
>a fair amount of single and twin camera stereo work and mount all my 
>slides in these frames.  Then I can view my slides with the same viewer, 
>project them with the same projector, share them with others, enter them 
>in slide competitions in Detroit and PSA, etc.
>
>This is still a universal language.  Realist-format cameras and 
>equipment are still widely available in the US and they are the cheapest 
>to buy and the most convenient to use.  But, for me, the question is not 
>Realist (or image size) format vs. the larger full-frame pair, but how 
>do you mount and view/project these images.  

Good point on what you mean by "Realist-format" where your actually 
refering to the standard 101mm X 41mm frame but in all sincerity 
is that what they mean when they refer to "Realist-format" and if
not what would be the proper way of refering to the multi-frame mount.
As for it being a universal language are you refering to the multi-frame
mount or the Realist camera now. If you are refering to the Realist format
camera system I think that is to bad, that we have to refer to a 50's
camera. As was mentioned and you have also, the question should be 
how do you mount and view/project these images. To me it looks like we are
living in the past. Yea the stuff from the 50's is cheap and good but
there is some good stuff now also and if some of us are really serious
about 3d there is some reasonable cameras with the right price compared to
what all those people in the 50's had to spend. And if we are not
serious or can't afford it there is a good crop of inexpensive cameras
for the person that wants to send their film to any film developer.

In your more recent posting you bring up some good points about
the FED servicability and I think for this and other reasons  
(Hypostereos and hyperstereo) I will pass on the FED or Realist.
I will use my Loreo, etc. (oh yea I forgot my poor Vivitar Q-dos
in a previous post) for the regular shots and for my more important
stuff I will go the twin SLR route when a single SLR won't work.

>There are people in this list who have not taken the first step yet...  
>You and I agree that the Realist (or equivalent) is a good choice for 
>this first step.  Before we move to the second step, we have to 
>acknowledge that, for many people, the Realist is all that is needed.

Oh is that right! I guess that means I will (and others) have to take
one step back or a few steps back since I never bought a Realist format
camera. I think you are missing the mark on this one. It's much more
complicated to take 3d pictures with a single (or twin) SLR since so
many other factors are in play here (stereo base, focal length, static
or dynamic subject, etc.) In my opinion the best route would be to 
buy two single-use cameras (or 1 or 2 SLR) as this is the most flexable
option. Also this way a beginner apreciates the subtleties of 3d picture
taking. After all when you first learn to take 2d pictures you should
use manual camera to learn the ropes which a fully automatic camera
won't let you. Same here with a fixed 3d camera. 
So as a first step I would recommend.
Use a single 2d camera and take two consecutive shots.
Or use two 2d cameras for simultaneous shots.
Or buy a 3d camera that is easy to get film processing.
Then if and only if someone gets serious into 3d photography
and are not happy with the quality of 3d cameras with easy 
processing or wants the convience of a single 3d camera 
as opposed to a single or twin SLR then they can spring 
for a Realist format camera. (Note it comes in last on my list) 
Note I stated Realist camera, I have personally nothing against 
them. My best friend has a Realist. ;-)

Gabriel 
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