Re: JPS Windows only Club or Vendor only Club

[P3D Sandman <sandler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

P3D Jonathan Gross says:
>I agree with the original comments;  Why post in JPS when you could post
>side-by-sides which you could could input into any viewing program,
>including VRex's.  Makes me wonder why they are trying to promote it as
>yet-another "in the best interest of the public" "standard".

Ok, I use my red/green glasses.  It gets converted for me automagically.
I do nothing.  Then If I want to see parallel or cross-eyed, I get it
with a button click. Why use a lack of standard that needs to be inputed
into a different viewing program.  If you don't think an open
corporate supported standard is good for the public then I think
you should take another look at the computer you are using and
say either: Thank you ibm/intel for a usable computer that I can
get any peripheral I want for. 
Or:  Why were you so stingy with your standards apple so that they
are less then 5% of the market.

Which was better the apple product line mac or the "pc" 
The mac
Which did not release it's standard?
The apple
Which has 90% of the market?
PC

Open standards are GOOD things.

>So, before I support, yet-another "public standard", I feel that the
>effected community should:
>
>1)  Establish a set of REQUIREMENTS which are open to review.
>2)  Create a set of alternative proposals which are subject to public
>review.
>3)  Let an open committee with broad representation select the standard.
>4)  Publish the standard, and establish a schedule for review and
>update.
>
>JPS is not a public standard, or even, as far as I can tell, a defacto
>standard.  JPS does not address a number of important issues specific to
>stereoscopic pairs, to high quality electronic imaging, and to copyright
>protection.

Yes, that all sounds good. Unfortunately I don't have:

1) Years to wait while a committee argues
2) Time to waste of a standard that will be overgrown and just die

The truth is standards adopted by committee  almost never fly.  The 
reason:  Long before the committee  makes up its mind, some company
puts out a product that works.  It becomes the de-facto standard
and, if open, improves the state of technology.  Thank God Vrex's
standard is a nice clean solution!!!!!!

Almost anything computer related was developed by the de-facto standard
system (most standards released by one or two people with no support)
they get picked up and used.

Mail system we use: SMTP (with mime extensions) (UofD students)
Mail system we don't use: ISO X.400-X.500 (committee )
Information Systems we use: WWW and HTML (by grad students)
Picture formats used most: GIF and JPG

All, the standards that get used have an advocate.  VREX's jps is
a good standard (I have already taught my unix box's browser to look
at them as jpg's).  VREX is a good advocate.  Why?  Because they
put out a product that does not require me to buy anything (I
probably will now though).  This shows me that they are in it for
the joy of 3D not _just_ for the money.

The fact that you can't use it right now means you
should:
A) Fix that.  Write the code/patch to do it yourself.
B) Ask someone else to. (There are many mac advocates that if
you flattered/challenged would spit something out that works in
less than a day...it won't have all the features of depth-charge
but it would do the job). If I had a mac, I would do it.  VREX
might do it if enough people asked them nicely.

No commitee was involved in the stereo card format.  No commitee
was involved in the realist format.  Did anyone you know have
a vote when movie theaters moved to THX?

Sandler

PS:  I just interpret this line of argument whining that is
actively against progress.  You have a better standard then release
it! 


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