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P3D Re: the world is non-ortho


  • From: fj834@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Dr. George A. Themelis)
  • Subject: P3D Re: the world is non-ortho
  • Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 22:42:46 -0500 (EST)

>I like a little hyper in my photos, increased sense of depth draws me into
>the scene & 'makes me feel like I'm there'.  

Just curious, what do you mean by "little hyper"?  Is the 6" of the
side by side SLRs the little hyper you are looking for?

>I also like to manipulate the placement of the photo in the window.

You mean the placement of the window in the scene?

>Those of you who spend lots of time at stereo photography might like a flat
>scene to look flat in a photo, 

It is not that we love it or strive to achieve it... but it happens from
time to time.... And I am not going to throw away a good overview
of Athens from Lycabettous Hill becasue it is flat, when I can use it
in my "Athens" travelog...

>but if it looks as good in a flat shot, I'd
>rather not go to the trouble of mounting, etc.  

What trouble of mounting?  Didn't we agreee that mounting is fun?
Also, how would you know that the pair is flat if you don't mount it
to look at it?  (this is known as the "Dottle Dilemma" after Mark 
Dottle who said he does not mount the pictures that don't look good
in 2d)

>But more than that, I'm an ortho-atheist.  

By declearing yourself an ortho-atheist, you are recognizing that
ortho is a religion.  Even John B. would not go that far...

>I like to keep orthostereoscopy
>in mind without 'believing in it'.  One doesn't violate ortho for an
>effect, it is violated because it is not inviolate.

I cannot follow this... I violate ortho for an effect... it is called
"hyper"

>The Zen of Ortho:
>For an individual stereoscopist, orthostereoscopy is possible.
>However, once we start sharing our stereo photos, ortho is an average or
>compromise.  There are significant differences between individuals in the
>psychological & physical capacity of our natural stereoscopic equipment.

Others have made the same point... which I find exaggerated.  You are
talking about minor deviations... For example, there are RBT cameras with 
75 mm lens' spacing and RBT cameras with 59 mm lens' spacing.  All of
them are acceptable normal interocular spacings, IMO. 

>(BTW, even the apostles of ortho on this list have approved its desecration
>under many circumstances...

I just like to know who these "apostles" are...

>Actually, I'm writing an essay on stereo optics for our
>Cascade Stereo Club's first annual show

You are writing an essay for a show?  Are you going to read it?
Any pictures going with it?

>Peter Abrahams   telscope@xxxxxxxxxx

George Themelis


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