T3D ARGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!

["Andrea Blair" <asblair@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

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>>>>George Gioumousis wrote: I do believe Andrea suffers from 
mathophobia.<<<<

Wrong (again) George! This is the second time you have (incorrectly) 
accused me of this. And I might add that it is getting a tad annoying. 
Although this may be your opinion, is just ain't so. If I wasn't 
interested in math, I wouldn't subscribe to T3D and participate in this 
particular discussion. I am looking for some basis for the work I am 
doing already. Consider that a person drives their car every day and 
enjoys the fact that the car gets them where they want to go. But one 
day they develop an interest in why the car works. What is behind the 
scenes? Then they pursue engine design and auto mechanics to *enlighten* 
them. There are others who will continue to drive their car and never 
worry about why it runs; it just does and they're happy. There are 
others who spend their whole life under the hood and occassionally go 
for a spin. Well, I'm here for macro stereo *enlightenment*. I want to 
continue doing what I'm doing, but I want to understand it better.

>>>>Some time ago, I think, a consensus developed that even moderate 
math disturbed too many people on photo-3d...<<<<

*Disturbed* is a little strong. Since there are a lot of new 
stereographers on P3D, hard core math may be more *confusing* than 
*disturbing*. It was the forcefulness of "Math is the Only Way" attitude 
that rubbed some people the wrong way.

>>>>In the meantime, perhaps we could be left in peace to pursue _our_ 
madnesses.<<<<

Sure. But could you do it nicely? {:>)  And strangely enough, wasn't it 
peace on the list that I was asking for?

>>>>During the math-related unpleasantness in p3d, Andrea accused me of 
being jealous of her PSA winnings for her macro pictures.<<<<

And I also immediately apologized for that unneccessary comment, or did 
you forget that part?

>>>>Furthermore, after getting honorable mentions three times in a row
in the Putnam Contest, I haven't felt jealous of anyone except 
Field Medal winners, and some Nobel Prize winners.<<<<

Congratulations on your recent wins! If you are considering 
participating in the macro folio, I look forward to seeing your images, 
especially since we shoot similar subjects (George also shoots flower 
macros).

I don't want to start some sort of holy war here, but it appears (IMHO) 
that there are some some heavy duty mathphiles who take great objection 
of there being any other way to do things than with math. No body has 
ever said you were wrong to only use math. Never. I think that was very 
clear in my original postings (here and in P3D) and from several other 
people. But please don't jump all over those of us who do not 
religiously follow the golden ruler. We (the "Don't Worry, Shoot Happy" 
crowd) willingly accept you and are even trying to join in and 
understand the numbers game, but you don't seem as willing to accept us 
and an alternative way of accomplishing the same results. Why not? And 
how many times to I have to congratulate the math people for the 
presentation of their data?

Andrea Blair
asblair@xxxxxxxxxxx

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