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RE: ADMIN REQUEST Re: Konica 750nm Processing Time


  • From: "Willem-Jan Markerink" <w.j.markerink@xxxxx>
  • Subject: RE: ADMIN REQUEST Re: Konica 750nm Processing Time
  • Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 14:09:16 +0100

On  7 Jul 99 at 22:49, George L Smyth wrote:

> As I mentioned, however, Pine, an ancient Unix program which I use when
> Telnetting into my provider's system, starts the reply at the top.  Netscape
> also does this.

Note that there is a subtle difference between the cursor appearing 
on top, vs a bunch of empty lines being created on top (thereby inviting 
people to reply there and not below).
Even Pegasus does the first, but only very crappy mailers do the 
latter....add the fact that those same crappy mailers are often 
responsible for binary- & HTML-crap, and the fun is complete.
 
> Personally, I couldn't care less which way it goes (I obviously follow the
> "quotes at the top" scheme because of your request).  My pain (as well as
> yours) are the messages where irrelevant portions of the previous email are
> mindlessly quoted back.

Feel free to remind those who do....this again boils down to my 
'ostrich' argument, "what you don't see can't hurt either"....not 
only will the poster not see the length of his quotes, but the 
readers won't see it either....the real time readers that 
is....digest readers are getting stuffed with longer or more digests 
than necessary.
Add the near-impossibility for a second follow-up that makes sense, 
and you have enough reasons to stick with the quote-first/reply-second 
rule.

Maximum gain from a mailinglist is only achieved at maximum efficiency.
Many of us read more than one list, some even dozens....all this 
inefficiency adds up to a lot of waisted time & bandwidth....to the 
point that some will (have to) restrict the number of mailinglists, 
especially those who are already in digest mode (digging through long 
quotes for the next message isn't my definition of efficient reading).

And loosing members that way would be a loss for all of us.
 

--                 
Bye,

Willem-Jan Markerink


      The desire to understand 
is sometimes far less intelligent than
     the inability to understand


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