Admin Request (was: New IR gallery of Carl Schofield

["Willem-Jan Markerink" <w.j.markerink@xxxxx>]

Dear group,

Can we please stick to the rule of replying after the quote, and not 
the other way around?
I see an increasing number of reply-first's, with increasing lenght 
of quote on the bottom, including multiple admin footers.
For those who wonder what the relation is between those two, and why it 
is so bad, see an older posting below:

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From:             "Willem-Jan Markerink" <w.j.markerink@xxxxx>
To:               infrared@xxxxx
Date sent:        Wed, 5 May 1999 18:31:13 +0000
Subject:          Admin stuff (was: bulk film holders, IR safe?
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Dear gang,

Lately I notice that several members are putting the quoted text
below the actual reply, which is not recommended. 
At first this might sound like silly nit-picking, but it is actual
part of Netiquette, and for more than one (good) reason, all closely
related to each other:

1) a longer thread with multiple messages/replies is very hard to 
read/edit in the reverse order of quote/reply

2) in the reverse order, you can't create a line-for-line (or
alinea-for-alinea) reply, you will have to quote all, followed by a
single alinea of reply....this is often neither efficient
(unnecessary quoting), nor to the point, making things harder to 
read.

3) if you reply on top, there is a good chance you don't even notice
how long the section is you quoted, since you hardly see it. Proof
of that is often found in the inclusion of the admin-footer, which
will then appear twice....to me, and many others, this is considered
pretty sloppy behaviour.

4) while such sloppy quoting might not affect real-time readers much, 
it is a pest for the digest....one has to skip long irrelevant sections 
to get to the next message....again very inefficient.


Some of you might still not see all this as a real problem, since
the traffic on this list isn't very high, but please keep in mind
that many members read several other mailinglists & newsgroups as
well, and all these bits of unnecessary inefficiency add up to a
considerable amount of wasted time & energy, sometimes even
resulting in  a message that gets no secondary reply at all (no
matter how relevant or necessary that reply would be....the more 
editing needed to create a sensible reply, the lower the chance of 
getting one).

So please stick to the most logical order, and keep quotes to a 
minimum, for reading & distribution efficiency.
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--                 
Bye,

Willem-Jan Markerink


      The desire to understand 
is sometimes far less intelligent than
     the inability to understand


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[note: 'a-one' & 'en-el'!]
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