Re: Thanks to all for reco's on San Fran

["Dirk Wright" <wright@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

>Made some interesting stops, including Filoli gardens, outside of 
Woodside.  
>I brought a model with to work in the formal gardens, who brought with 
a 
>wedding dress.  She truly looked beautiful, and things were working 
out 
>great, until a director came by, insisted that I was running a 
business, 
>stated that Filoli didn't do weddings, and I got ejected.  They were 
very 
>uptight, and claimed I needed insurance, a permit, and needed to pay a 
>$1,200.00 location fee.  The initial rolls look good, and what's life 
without 
>a few war stories?
>

yeah, you have to get permission these days for shooting at places like 
public gardens and parks if you're doing "serious" photography. Having 
a model and a tripod puts you in the "pro" catagory regardless of the 
truth of the matter. In the US, the National Park Service requires a 
permit for professional photography. I don't know what you can do to 
convince them that you are not a business. I asked at the National 
Arboretum recently, and they just wanted me to tell them that the 
photos were not for resale. I wanted to shoot some dwarf conifers with 
EIR and a tripod, but didn't want to get into trouble about it. Still 
haven't done it, but I'll get another confirmation from the appropriate 
staff person when I show up on the day I want to shoot. If Filoli 
Gardens is a privately owned public garden, then they can set whatever 
rules they want regarding photography. From the point of view of the 
managers of these types of places, too often photographers damage the 
landscaping when performing a shoot. Of course, careless people (both 
young and older) damage landscaping also. The managers further don't 
like other people making money off of their efforts. These gardens 
usually contain rare and valuable plant material within landscaping 
that is expensive to maintain. 

Be seeing you.


Dirk Wright
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