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VÁ: Panoramic Scanning


  • From: Varró Norbert <varron@xxxxxxx>
  • Subject: VÁ: Panoramic Scanning
  • Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 11:14:11 +0200

An even simpler solution - put the minox frame(s) in a modified glass slide
holder. Cut it back and front so longer stripes can fit. The HP eats slides
also.

Norbert

> ----------
> Feladó: 	Mike Sinclair[SMTP:sinclair@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Küldés ideje: 	1999.szeptember.30. 3:12
> Címzett: 	panorama-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Tárgy: 	FW: Panoramic Scanning
> 
> I believe the HP S20 uses a rubber roller and capstan and not sprocket
> holes. The former is much more accurate for short film lengths (< 6
> exposures). You can scan Minox film (and APS, 16mm, etc - smaller than
> 35mm
> film). Simply (and carefully) tape strips of 35mm film to the sides of the
> smaller film to make 35mm. This seems to work very well but is kind of a
> kluge. For the smaller Minox film, you should be able to cut a
> Minox-film-strip-sized rectangle down the middle of a piece of 35mm stock
> and tape the Minox film to it to scan.
> 
> BTW, the S20 is a true 2400 dpi sensor though at that resolution, it's
> known
> to be a little soft but very usable. The new HP software, not backward
> compatible with the older scanner, works very well with longer 35mm strips
> of positive or negative film (ie - panoramic lengths). See Steve Hoffman's
> review @ http://www.sphoto.com/s20.html
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -Mike-
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry J. Clark [mailto:ljclark@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 5:56 PM
> To: panorama-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Panoramic Scanning
> 
> 
> Lots of good comments and ideas from folks...
> 
> William Boyle wrote (regarding the HP PhotoSmart):
> > 
> > What kind of film carrier does it use? A brief description of the
> > process (how it differs from normal 24x36 scans) would be be helpful.
> 
> I lifted the lid on one...It feeds the 35mm film directly,
> advancing
> it using the sprocket holes.  You can also select a mode that
> allows
> you to feed it a mounted slide, and there is a mode tha allows
> you
> to scan a snapshot.  It is a USB device, so connections should be
> almost painless.
> 
> The one thing that keeps me from the HP is that my other 
> photographic passion is Minox.  You need a scanner in the 
> 2,000 ppi range.  I haven't figured out a way of feeding 
> the HP scanner Minox film.  If I did panoramic 35mm and
> regular, I'd be in good shape.  Also if I just did Minox and
> regular 35mm.  But not all three formats!  :-(
> 
> Jan Faul wrote:
> > 
> >         I adapted one and found that the Noblex images were too
> > close to the end of the scanner pass and so were not covered. 
> > I instead opted for another scanner called the Powerlook 3000 
> > from UMAX. I think it was even cheaper.
> 
> I'd rather a dedicated film scanner.
> 
> >         Do you by any chance own a Noblex shift-lens camera? 
> 
> Nope -- Horizon.
> 
> "Thomas G. Tamura" wrote:
> 
> > First the good news:  Vuescan software will drive the Minolta 
> > Dual scan mechanism beyond the normal required for 35mm scanning, 
> > so the firmware does not seem to have placed an artificial limit 
> > on how far the motor may be driven.
> > 
> > Now the bad news:  The hard stop for the Dual scan in only 
> > slightly beyond the normal limit.  The internal architecture 
> > would need to be modified:  longer lead screw and guide rods.  
> > The point where these components are mounted (where they would 
> > need to be lengthened) is quite near to circuit boards at the 
> > read of the unit, so the case might need to be lengthened...
> > 
> > I think it could be done if one were sufficiently motivated 
> > though.  > If anyone is interested in tackling it, let me know.
> 
> I was figuring that modification of the carrier would the way to
> do this.  Some stops might have to be removed, and you might
> have to reposition each negative for each scan.  Minolta was
> very emphatic about the dangers of modifications, risk to the
> warranty, etc.  They'd much rather have me spend $2,000 for
> a larger film scanner.
> 
> Film scanners with fixed sensor arrays are some of the Minoltas,
> the Poloroid SprintScan, and the HP.  The Tamarack 2400 had a
> moving sensor head that sweeps the area to be scanner -- probably
> about 36mm x 36mm.
> 
> Microtek had not responded to my questions.
> 
> I'll share as I get more information.
> 
> Larry Clark 
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