Re: The times sure have changed, fast!

[belial <belial@xxxxxxxxx>]

"Do you really only want to look at the images on your computer screen? "..
Yes, Andy. I do. It is a lot of fun. Panorama as a digital medium has a lot
of attributes specific to the computer technology if it is used as a
interactive element in the show. That is what we were trying to do a decade
ago as the "interactive film". Going digital doesn't mean to destroy real
photography, that's just a deferent medium. I have no reason  to print every
one of my image. I still love B/W photos but have a lot of fun by turning
and zooming QTVR's to.
+
Robert's prices:
#1.Cam = $370 _ Hmmm.... I've seen even cheeper but do I want to use it?????
OK about $1200
#2.PaintShop Pro $70 (with rebate)  <...is even more powerfull that the full
priced PhotoShop 6> _ Don't know how many years you were working with
Photoshop, but I will hesetate to agree with your opinion.
#3."Stitching software Free" _ If you are serious about panoramas I will
sugest to sacrifice those $50 for something like "Photovista" (no, I'm not
advertising this particular software.)
#4. What about pano-head for proper leveling. Kaidan products are around
$200. (Maybe somebody is doing the same thing cheeper, I don't know).
#5. "....cost to produce state of the art panoramic imaging $440 !!!" _
Again, I can't agree with it. To produce the state of art image you need to
add several years of your study of the composition, color and mood creation.
This is you, not those $440 or even $44000.
Nothing personal, just my thoughts.

belial


----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy Buck" <buckwiet@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <panorama-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 6:33 AM
Subject: Re: The times sure have changed, fast!


> Sorry Bob, I can't agree with you either.
>
> Aside from the stitching vs. one neg question, the
> meaningfulness of a web survey is questionable. It's
> close to saying "every one who uses the web, uses the
> web". There's plenty of us out here really just
> getting going with pan photography with big new and/or
> old cameras with no intention of going digital. I'm
> using a hulcher and a custom made 5"er. I never answer
> internet polls, something I'm sure not alone in. And
> there's still a lot of intellegent, educated, creative
> people who don't rely on computers or live for
> technology, believe it or not!
>
> So, while you've found what you like, and many, many
> others agree with you, it's not the way for all of us,
> so please don't tell us it is.
>
> btw, you forgot a photo-quality printer in your
> system. Do you really only want to look at the images
> on your computer screen? <g>
>
> Andy
> --- Robert Erickson <cirkut8@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > According to the current internet poll, currently
> > 40%
> > of the panoramic photographers are now shooting with
> > a
> > digital camera and stitching the images. I predict
> > that by years end it will be over half. One big
> > reason
> > is that with digital photography there is no film,
> > processing, or scanning to mess with. The only
> > materials cost is 20 cents for a blank CD-R to
> > deliver
> > the images to the customer, assuming that the
> > photographer uses rechargable batteries in the
> > camera.
> > Of course you can always email the image to them.
> > :-)
> >
> > What would have been a state of the art computer a
> > year ago (eMachine 600+) costs under $500 these
> > days.
> > Professional stitching software is available free,
> > most top rated ones are sub $100. Three mega pixel
> > cameras are now sub $500. The most costly item that
> > a
> > professional panoramic photographer will need to buy
> > is imaging software. PhotoShop is $600, however
> > PhotoShop LE is all that you really need $100, and
> > IMHO PaintShop Pro is even more powerfull that the
> > full priced PhotoShop 6 and available for under
> > $100.
> >
> > Assuming that if you are reading this message you
> > already own a computer, To set yourself up as a
> > state
> > of the art panoramic photographer today would cost
> > you
> > under $500 total.
> >
> > *****
> > ZDNET:Top Rated, Kodak DC4800 Zoom Digital $370
> > PaintShop Pro $70 (with rebate)
> > Stitching software Free
> > Computer, already have.
> > Film, none
> > Processing, none
> > scanner, none
> > Todays cost to produce state of the art panoramic
> > imaging $440 !!!
> > *****
> >
> > For more information I recomend
> > http://www.panoguide.com
> >
> > Take the poll:
> >
> http://polls.vantagenet.com/2/8/22148828/polls/221482727/index.htm
> >
> > Bob Erickson
> > http://www.panoramic.net
> >
> > =====
> > Robert Erickson, cirkut8@xxxxxxxxx
> > The Panoramic Network: http://www.panoramic.net
> >