This is not a boxing ring

[IAPPPresident@xxxxxxx]

Here's a copy of my reply to Bob Erickson which I thought I'd sent to the 
list.

Meanwhile, we IAPPers are having a very successful and lovely convention.  
The new equipment demos were fantastic, Will Landon had a stunning bit of 
70mm film he'd made into a continuously passing strip slide show called In 
the Beginning . . just gorgeous.  Ron Klein won the Mine's Bigger Than Yours 
non-contest by showing a um, what was it . . a 22 inch Cirkut camera he'd 
found, and a 24" Cirkut Camera he's been making.  Oh wow.  Gerry French did a 
great slide show about photographing the wine country.  The room's been 
packed with 75 people most of the time, and the trade show was abuzzzzz over 
all the good stuff on show . . .Panoscan, Spheron, Spinpic, RealViz, 
Panoptic, Roundshot, Fuji, Kodak, Art Leather,  et. al.  Cliff Crutchfield's 
wife Jan Simone is offering massage - 4 sessions a day, and she's booked full 
for nearly the whole convention!!!  And the dinners people have been having 
in Napa . . . we're all booked for the fat farm afterwards.  Well, I've got 
to get up for the breakfast Fuji is treating to in the morning . . . 
Goodnight, folks!      

Subj:   Re: IAPP not for me!
Date:   3/27/01 11:42:45 AM Pacific Standard Time
From:   IAPP President
To: cirkut8@xxxxxxxxx

Dear list members,

We live in a country of free speech, and anyone is welcome to say whatever he 
or she pleases.

I believe lists like this are for the sharing of good information, and there 
is no need to turn these areas, or IAPP into boxing rings.   Therefore I make 
every effort to make positive contributions, and will not spend any time 
replying publicly to items such as the letter below.  I would like to state 
that there are a number of inaccuracies, though.  The matter needs to be 
settled privately.  

Tonight we are launching our convention in Napa with a Wine and Cheese 
Social, and we have quite a few good presentations to look forward to, as 
well as the usual comraderie and photo displays, etc.  During the convention 
we'll be e-mailing some photos and information to our webmaster who will 
update the site.

Liz Hymans
IAPP President

> Like Michel Dusariez, I too was black listed from IAPP
>  membership. When I offered to pay for the publishing
>  of the Membership Directory, secretary Addie Lorber
>  sent me a refund of my dues, and then told members
>  that I had quit. What gall! I have long suffered as
>  from the results of blatant lies of certain members.
>  When I was IAPP President things were so bad that I
>  added a note on every board message reminding them to
>  tell the truth.
>  
>  I remember the last meeting that I attended before
>  being kicked out of IAPP. Things were bad enough that
>  I was forbidden from giving a presentation to the
>  group. When it came time for the election, only the
>  names of the persons that secretary Lorber liked were
>  on the ballot. How can you hold an election without
>  every nominated individuals name on the ballot? No
>  one there said a thing. I was dumbfounded! 
>  
>  When Peter Lorber self declared himself President
>  Elect without bothering to hold an election, that was
>  bad enough. However, when the board went along with,
>  it that was the last straw. There are bylaws. Is the
>  person who ignores them for his own self-interest is
>  soon to be in trusted with up holding them?
>  Outrageous. I will not be a member of any such
>  organization. I am saddened that Panorama Magazine has
>  become nothing more than member supported publicity
>  for President Elect Peter Lorbers business and his
>  customers. 
>  
>  As founder of the rival Panoramic Network, when I
>  heard that IAPP was now using the term Network to
>  describe its self I had to laugh. Imitation is indeed
>  the highest form of flattery. Thank you. I am
>  concerned, on the other hand, that IAPP is now trying
>  to deceive individuals that the Panoramic Network and
>  IAPP are some how related.
>  
>  I am boycotting IAPP until honesty, order, and reason
>  has been restored.
>  
>  Sincerely yours,
>  Robert Erickson
>  3042 Cardinal Drive