a 3d experiment

["Luis A. Ortiz" <fauve@xxxxxxxxxx>]

------ =_NextPart_000_01BB170A.94A56640
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,
	I have been attempting to make a 3d animation for the web
using a borrowed realist45 and Gif Construction Set, a program that=20
creates and plays interleaved gifs (netscape2.0 also has this ability).
	The images are a sandwich of the setup in daylight and in
almost complete darkness.  The setup consists of a laser pointer and=20
mirrors on a table.  I was going for the effect of watching the beam=20
traverse a complex path - something is normally impossible to film.
	I could not get the beam to show on p3200 Tmax shot at 6400.
I had two ppl blowing smoke on it (tried steam and incense).=20
Although it looked fine to us, the film could not catch it.  Is it =
because=20
the film was not sensitive enough to red?  I thought p3200 was =
panchromatic.   I really want to film this - I tried faking it in =
photopaint
but it didn't look like the real thing.
	I will post to the web if/when the project is complete.  Can=20
anyone help?  Thank you.

	Luis Ortiz
	http://www.albany.net/~fauve/START.HTML
------ =_NextPart_000_01BB170A.94A56640
Content-Type: application/ms-tnef
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
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------ =_NextPart_000_01BB170A.94A56640--


------------------------------