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- From: "Theus Dinger" <p.dinger@xxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 10:32:57 +0100
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Subject: [photo-3d] Digest Number 281
> There are 25 messages in this issue.
>
> Topics in this digest:
>
> 1. RE: Which eye do you close?
> From: "Gabriel Jacob" <gjacob@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> 2. Which eye do you close
> From: Peter Homer <P.J.Homer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 3. Re: Re: VM Camera
> From: Robert Thorpe <thorpe@xxxxxxxx>
> 4. Re: Which eye do you close?
> From: Ron Beck <rbeck@xxxxxxxx>
> 5. Re: King Inn
> From: quellen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 6. Vanity Mirror
> From: markaren@xxxxxxxxx
> 7. Re: Vanity Mirror
> From: Linda Nygren <lnygren@xxxxxxx>
> 8. RE: Vanity Mirror
> From: "Gabriel Jacob" <gjacob@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> 9. Dominant Eye
> From: Pixschack@xxxxxxx
> 10. Re: Re: VM Camera
> From: Gene in Texas <tex3d@xxxxxxxxx>
> 11. Re: Dominant Eye
> From: "Dr. George A. Themelis" <drt-3d@xxxxxxx>
> 12. Re: Dominant Eye
> From: "Mike Kersenbrock" <michaelk@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 13. Re: Re: Dominant Eye
> From: Herbert C Maxey <bmaxey1@xxxxxxxx>
> 14. Re: Re: Dominant Eye
> From: Linda Nygren <lnygren@xxxxxxx>
> 15. Re: Re: Dominant Eye
> From: Linda Nygren <lnygren@xxxxxxx>
> 16. Priority Mail
> From: Harry Richards <hjrich@xxxxxxxxxx>
> 17. Re: Re: Dominant Eye
> From: Herbert C Maxey <bmaxey1@xxxxxxxx>
> 18. Re: Priority Mail
> From: Herbert C Maxey <bmaxey1@xxxxxxxx>
> 19. Re: Re: Dominant Eye
> From: Gabriel Jacob <3-d@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 20. Re: Re: Dominant Eye
> From: Rory Hinnen <Rory.Hinnen@xxxxxxxxxx>
> 21. Re: Re: Dominant Eye
> From: "Dennis M. Hanser" <dmhanser@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> 22. Re: Re: Dominant Eye
> From: "Dr. George A. Themelis" <drt-3d@xxxxxxx>
> 23. October OSPS Meeting Report
> From: "Dr. George A. Themelis" <drt-3d@xxxxxxx>
> 24. Re: Anaglyphs on the computer/PowerPoint presentations
> From: "Chris Cavigioli" <chris-c@xxxxxxx>
> 25. Re: Re: Dominant Eye
> From: Linda Nygren <lnygren@xxxxxxx>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 10:20:00 -0400
> From: "Gabriel Jacob" <gjacob@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: Which eye do you close?
>
> Dr.T writes:
> >For what it's worth, I am right handed and use my left eye (close the
> right).
>
> Hey, me too! So that's two Tom.
>
> Other interesting related aspects are looking at anaglyphs. If you look at
> them
> carefully you'll notice a red or bluish tint. If you concentrate you can
> change
> back and forth between the red or bluish tint. I imagine this has to do
with
> your
> dominant eye. Another simple test (for dominant eye) is sticking out your
> thumb
> and then closing one eye to see which way your thumb "jumps". I forget the
> exact details on this.
>
> There is another interesting test which maybe illustrates dominant traits
> (I don't know, maybe some can clarify). Stretch out both hand and clasp
them
> together. You'll notice you ALWAYS overlap one thumb over the other, the
> same way. For example, I always overlap my left thumb over my right one.
It
> feels weird doing it the other way around.
>
> Next question is, how do you use a fork and knife? I am right handed and
> normally use a fork with my right hand, BUT when I use both a fork and
> knife, I use the fork with my left hand and the knife with my right hand.
Is
> this normal or am I strange or something! I wonder what all this means!
;-)
>
> Now in a vain attempt to bring this back on topic, I think the Realist
> shutter
> button on the left side makes perfect sense. If the shutter was on the
> right,
> the advance mechanism would probably have had to be placed on the left.
> If your right handed, imagine advancing the film, if it was indeed on the
> left!
> I'll take the left shutter button orientation any day.
>
> Gabriel
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 15:37:36 +0000
> From: Peter Homer <P.J.Homer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Which eye do you close
>
>
> Tom Deering wrote
>
> >When I want to see a stereo image in 2D, I always close the same eye.
> >Which eye do you
> >close?
>
> >
> >I am writing a magazine article which will require the reader to look at
> >stereo images with just one
> >eye, then two. Due to the subject of the article, the composition will
be
> >a bit critical. I would hate
> >to tailor my illustrations to favor one eye only to later find out almost
> >everyone uses the other
>
>
>
> Maybe this is connected to the dominant eye, if you view a real object
> through an aperture made with your thumb and fore finger with both eyes
and
> then each one in turn,you find that the view with two eyes correlates more
> with one single eye view than the other. This varies with different people
> and they may need to do this excersise first to know which eye to shut for
> your purposes. P.J.Homer
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 09:41:28 -0500
> From: Robert Thorpe <thorpe@xxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Re: VM Camera
>
> Ron Beck wrote:
> > I was hoping to kludge something together.
>
> Ron,
>
> I took my VM to the local camera repair shop and had them
> put a pc connector to lower right of the lens as you look
> at the front of the camera and had them x-sync it to the
> shutters. I don't think the whole business cost more than
> about $25.
>
> ======================
> Robert Thorpe
> Cedar Rapids, IA
> thorpe@xxxxxxxx
> http://www.skep.com
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 10:43:40 -0500
> From: Ron Beck <rbeck@xxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Which eye do you close?
>
> I have noticed that, when using a rifle sight, threading a needle or
> peering through my Kodak Stereo, I use my right eye.
>
> However, when using a rifle, I have switched from right to left without
> a problem. It seems that, in that case, my right eye gets tired so I
> switch to the left for a while. Difficult to do in prone position as
> you have to move but easy to do while standing.
>
> I don't recall using my left eye when using my cameras though, although
> I have switched eyes while using my video recorder.
>
> But, for the record, I use my right eye for the majority of times that
> require a "one eyed" view.
>
> Regards,
> Ron
>
> Tom Deering wrote:
> >
> > When I want to see a stereo image in 2D, I always close the same eye.
Which eye do you
> > close?
> >
> > I am writing a magazine article which will require the reader to look at
stereo images with just one
> > eye, then two. Due to the subject of the article, the composition will
be a bit critical. I would hate
> > to tailor my illustrations to favor one eye only to later find out
almost everyone uses the other
> > eye. I am left-handed, so I do not trust that my preferences are
universal.
> >
> > In the next few days, take a look at a stereo view, close one eye, and
then tell me which one
> > you close. Single word answers will be confusing, so tell me
specifically "I close my xxxxxx
> > eye". Please respond to me directly at smile@xxxxxxxxxxx, not on the
list.
> >
> > Admittedly, this is rather trivial, but I will share the results in a
few days.
> >
> > Tom Deering
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 08:58:00 -0700
> From: quellen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: King Inn
>
> Dear Sergio: To my knowledge, there are no pictures of the King Inn camera
> on the www. You will have to go the reference I quoted originally:the
> camera was written up and pictured in Stereo World September/October 1991,
> page 34. I have heard that it was mentioned in Popular Photography a year
> or so earlier, but I have never seen the report, and I do not know if
there
> was a photo with it. Each side of the King Inn loaded a separate roll of
> film, but the films wound together. There was only one reflex viewfinder.
> Regards, Quentin Burke, Q-VU, Holtville, CA 92250.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 13:29:43 -0400 (EDT)
> From: markaren@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Vanity Mirror
>
> Harold Kaiman brought an interesting book to the OSPS meeting using a
> long narrow septum -like mirror to view the print pairs. I experimented
> with this to view pairs using a regular hand -held vanity mirror and it
> works great! This will certainly drive your favorite mini-lab crazy, but
> the use of a stereo viewer and /or freeviewing is not necessary. Make a
> print of the left image normally. Now flip the negative backwards and
> print the right image. ( not upside down, but flip the emulsion side
> over). Place the images side by side like a holmes style pair. Turn the
> mirror on edge, mirrored side to your left, and place the edge of the
> mirror against your nose. The mirror becomes the septum. The right eye
> looks directly at the right image, while the left eye looks into the
> mirror observing the left print reflection. You may have to align the
> prints and experiment with distance etc. If you mounted the mirror on a
> home made stand and mounted your prints properly, you would get
> consistently good results.
> WARNING: I have the luxury to experiment with print machines. Your local
> lab may not be as excited. :-) You would most likely have to order the
> left side reprints first ( by each frame #) Then request a later order
> for the backward prints ( again by frame #) You'll save $$ avoiding
> stereo viewers but make enemies at the local lab. :-) I just found the
> idea very interesting and plan to construct such a mirror devise.
> Mark Dottle
>
>
> http://community.webtv.net/markaren/USVIEWSExchangeFolio
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 12:38:04 -0500
> From: Linda Nygren <lnygren@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Vanity Mirror
>
> I believe I have seen that method used in some vintage (1950's)
> Photography magazine articles on stereo photography, where they printed
> stereo images this way assuming that readers could view them at home
> with a mirror and then they didn't have to deal with viewer or
> freeviewing issues. -Linda
>
> markaren@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >
> > Harold Kaiman brought an interesting book to the OSPS meeting using a
> > long narrow septum -like mirror to view the print pairs. I experimented
> > with this to view pairs using a regular hand -held vanity mirror and it
> > works great! This will certainly drive your favorite mini-lab crazy, but
> > the use of a stereo viewer and /or freeviewing is not necessary. Make a
> > print of the left image normally. Now flip the negative backwards and
> > print the right image. ( not upside down, but flip the emulsion side
> > over). Place the images side by side like a holmes style pair. Turn the
> > mirror on edge, mirrored side to your left, and place the edge of the
> > mirror against your nose. The mirror becomes the septum. The right eye
> > looks directly at the right image, while the left eye looks into the
> > mirror observing the left print reflection. You may have to align the
> > prints and experiment with distance etc. If you mounted the mirror on a
> > home made stand and mounted your prints properly, you would get
> > consistently good results.
> > WARNING: I have the luxury to experiment with print machines. Your local
> > lab may not be as excited. :-) You would most likely have to order the
> > left side reprints first ( by each frame #) Then request a later order
> > for the backward prints ( again by frame #) You'll save $$ avoiding
> > stereo viewers but make enemies at the local lab. :-) I just found the
> > idea very interesting and plan to construct such a mirror devise.
> > Mark Dottle
> >
> > http://community.webtv.net/markaren/USVIEWSExchangeFolio
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 14:10:26 -0400
> From: "Gabriel Jacob" <gjacob@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: Vanity Mirror
>
> Mark Dottle writes:
> >Harold Kaiman brought an interesting book to the OSPS meeting
> >using a long narrow septum -like mirror to view the print pairs.
>
> Linda Nygren replies:
> >I believe I have seen that method used in some vintage (1950's)
> >Photography magazine articles on stereo photography
>
> I remember the first time I saw this method, I was leafing through a
> Time-Life Science series book. This was about 30 years ago. I
> forget which particular title it was, but I did find it pretty
fascinating.
>
> There are some recent education books that are done in this fashion.
> There are some rare web pages that are presented this way too. Isn't
> it amazing, what one can do with a simple mirror!
>
> Gabriel
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 14:27:02 EDT
> From: Pixschack@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Dominant Eye
>
> In a message dated 10/4/00 7:02:51 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> photo-3d@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
>
> > For what it's worth, I am right handed and use my left eye (close the
right)
>
> This is interesting. This may mean that you Dr. T, like myself, are
"cross
> dominant" I am also right handed but I use my left eye to look in the
> viewfinder of a camera for instance. This is a distinct minority of the
> population. People with this trait are known to be the best hitters in
> baseball because the left eye has a better view of the pitcher and the
ball
> when batting right handed. The question is, are cross dominant people
also
> the best photographers? ;)
>
> Gary Schacker
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 11:44:30 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Gene in Texas <tex3d@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Re: VM Camera
>
> I've taken an old V-M flash and converted it for use
> with any flash..works great!
> --- Ron Beck <rbeck@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Yes, I've seen this. It's a great idea, however,
> > it's also more than I
> > paid for the camera. So, I was hoping to kludge
> > something together.
> > Still, it is an option so I'll keep it in the back
> > of my mind.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ron
> >
> > charles.barnard@xxxxxxx wrote:
> > >
> > > Or, if you don't mind spending some dough,
> > 3dstereo.com has this
> > > nifty little adapter:
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.3dstereo.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.exe/online-store/scstore/p-
> > > sdf-vm1.html?L+scstore+kztn2427+972271874
> > >
> > > I have one, and it works like a charm.
> > >
> > > -Charles
> > >
> > > --- In photo-3d@xxxxxxxxxxx, Paul Talbot
> > <list_post@xxxx> wrote:
> > > > Ron Beck wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Can anyone tell me how the flash contact on
> > the VM Personal camera
> > > > > works? I'm assuming a center contact and side
> > contact. I
> > > thought I'd
> > > > > read something about it previously on the list
> > but I can't seem
> > > to find
> > > > > it.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd really like to try to build some sort of
> > adapter so I can
> > > take
> > > > > strobe shots at the State Fair next week.
> > Otherwise I'll be
> > > pretty much
> > > > > limited to outdoor shots.
> > > >
> > > > I've never worked with any VM cameras, so I'm
> > not sure about this.
> > > > But, at the risk of beginning to sound like a
> > broken record, try
> > > > that overlooked resource, the RMM 3D
> > Encyclopedia compiled by Joel
> > > > Alpers. It's at
> > http://www.rmm3d.com/3d.encyclopedia/index.html
> > > > If you follow the link for Stereo Camera Repairs
> > and Modifications,
> > > > you can work your way to "Adapting a View Master
> > for electronic
> > > flash"
> > > > at
> > >
> >
> http://www.rmm3d.com/3d.encyclopedia/repairs/viewmaster/strobe.html
> > > >
> > > > I received a note recently from Bob Stern that
> > he'd read the above
> > > > info long ago, and letting me know about his:
> > > >
> > > > | VM flash hack. It's a different approach,
> > really easy and uses
> > > > | original VM flash equipment. It's located at:
> > > > |
> > http://www.geocities.com/vienna/1059/flash.html
> > > >
> > > > Bob kindly gave permission to include his
> > approach in the 3D
> > > > Encyclopedia, but I haven't had a chance to
> > incorporate the
> > > > files into the rmm web site yet.
> > > >
> > > > Hope this helps.
> > > >
> > > > Paul Talbot
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free!
> http://photos.yahoo.com/
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 14:41:04 -0500
> From: "Dr. George A. Themelis" <drt-3d@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Dominant Eye
>
> > The question is, are cross dominant people also
> > the best photographers? ;)
> > Gary Schacker
>
> We've heard from one so far. :)
>
> George
>
> PS. For those not in the 3dSalon list, Gary did great in the
> recent Detroit PSA Salon, winning the "Judge's Choice"
> award and 3 HMs! 4 awards with 4 entries. Cannot
> do any better than that!!!
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 22:11:58 -0000
> From: "Mike Kersenbrock" <michaelk@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Dominant Eye
>
> > population. People with this trait are known to be the best
> hitters
> in
> > baseball because the left eye has a better view of the pitcher and
> the ball
> > when batting right handed. The question is, are cross dominant
> people also
> > the best photographers? ;)
>
> Well, if one is using an RBT camera, and views using
> both eyes simultaneously (I do that with even the X3B which
> isn't advertised for that to "work", but that's another
> completely separate topic to branch off on), I don't see
> the advantage similar to that of the pitcher. If anything,
> making the dominant-eye point moot in this way would seem to
> be an advantage for stereo photography. For me, I think my
> images are less crummy than they would be with a one-eye
> camera and probably is why I do a little less poorly with
> my still relatively new RBT (whenever I get time, a
> rare occurance).
>
> Mike K.
>
>
>
>
> >
> > Gary Schacker
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:31:34 -0600
> From: Herbert C Maxey <bmaxey1@xxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Re: Dominant Eye
>
> What do you mean by "Cross Dominant".
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 18:01:39 -0500
> From: Linda Nygren <lnygren@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Re: Dominant Eye
>
> "Cross dominant" would be e.g. left handed but right eye dominant, or
> vice versa. I am right eyed and right handed, myself. I am also right
> footed, for kicking a ball for example, although you would never see me
> on a soccer field.
>
> It seems that some people are more "ambioptic" or whatever (analogous to
> ambidextrous), as in the riflery example that was given earlier. Perhaps
> this would be an advantage in stereophotography? -Linda
>
> Herbert C Maxey wrote:
> >
> > What do you mean by "Cross Dominant".
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 18:52:50 -0500
> From: Linda Nygren <lnygren@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Re: Dominant Eye
>
> Oops. Make that "ambiocular", to stick to the Latin roots rather than
> mixing in a Greek "optic". -Linda
>
> Linda Nygren wrote:
> >
> > "Cross dominant" would be e.g. left handed but right eye dominant, or
> > vice versa. I am right eyed and right handed, myself. I am also right
> > footed, for kicking a ball for example, although you would never see me
> > on a soccer field.
> >
> > It seems that some people are more "ambioptic" or whatever (analogous to
> > ambidextrous), as in the riflery example that was given earlier. Perhaps
> > this would be an advantage in stereophotography? -Linda
> >
> > Herbert C Maxey wrote:
> > >
> > > What do you mean by "Cross Dominant".
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 19:16:48 -0500
> From: Harry Richards <hjrich@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Priority Mail
>
> I have a probelm with my RBT, Jon Golden said that I should send it
> to Consumer Tech in Norcross, GA. I shipped it on Sept. 29, Priority
> Mail and insured for $2500.00. As of today, when I check the Post
> Office web site I get the message
> : Your item was picked up at 1:09PM on Sept. 26 in Thiensville, WI
> and is on
> route to it's delivery destination".
> Today I received an email from Consumer Tech stateing that they had
> the camera and the Technician is checking it out.
> If you send something by priority mail with a Delivery Confirmation
> do not depend on the Postal service for confirmation of delivery.
> Regards,
> Harry
>
> --
> Harry B. Richards
> mail to:hjrich@xxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 19:50:06 -0600
> From: Herbert C Maxey <bmaxey1@xxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Re: Dominant Eye
>
> >>"Cross dominant" would be e.g. left handed but right eye dominant, or
> >>vice versa. I am right eyed and right handed, myself. I am also right
> >>footed, for kicking a ball for example, although you would never see me
> >>on a soccer field.
>
> So is there any actual science behind all these comments and suppositions
> or are you all just guessing? There must be some specific stereo tests
> that can be performed to determine if you are "Dominant" in either eye.
> And I am not too sure if these are very accurate either. At the
> beginning, it was surmised that the eye one chooses to view one side of a
> stereo pair makes that you "Dominant" eye. I think you would have to find
> a reputable expert to agree that this is the actual case. I think it has
> more to do with a habit you develop.
>
> At dinner tonight, I asked my brother to look at a stereo card with one
> eye closed. He is right handed and closed the right eye. His wife is also
> right handed, but closed her left eye. My mom is left handed, as am I,
> and I close my right eye and so does she. I kick with my right foot and I
> play left handed guitar.
>
> My dog herman lost a leg when he was run over, so I did not ask him - it
> would have skewed the results.
>
> This is a fascinating subject to me, but I would like to see some real
> science, not just supposition.
>
> Bob
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 18
> Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 19:56:51 -0600
> From: Herbert C Maxey <bmaxey1@xxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Priority Mail
>
> >>If you send something by priority mail with a Delivery Confirmation
> >>do not depend on the Postal service for confirmation of delivery.
>
> Did you specifically ask for a confirmation of delivery? I was asked this
> today when I send a parcel Priority and Insured to a BMW dealership ALSO
> in Norcross GA. I do this rarely, and assumed that the postal service
> sent a confirmation automatically.
>
> Bob
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 22:39:06 -0400
> From: Gabriel Jacob <3-d@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Re: Dominant Eye
>
> Bob Maxey writes:
> >So is there any actual science behind all these comments and suppositions
> >or are you all just guessing? There must be some specific stereo tests
> >that can be performed to determine if you are "Dominant" in either eye.
>
>
> Hey,we're not guessing! :-) I remember reading about these tests long ago,
> some place, some where. Regretfully I don't remember when and where,
> but that's why we have the WWW! I just did a search and found this
> reference (among a multitude of other interesting ones).
> http://www.naplesnews.com/00/08/sports/d497765a.htm
>
> Quoting from the link, a Travis Gresham, a Doctor of Optometry says,
> "To find out which of your eyes is dominant, make a small circle with
> your thumb and forefinger and hold it out in front of you at arm's length,
> and focus it on a target with both eyes open, so you can see the target
> through the circle. Now close one eye. If the target stays inside the
> circle, you are looking out of your dominant eye. That is the one that
> focuses on the target. Now open both eyes again, put the target back
> inside the circle, and close the opposite eye. The target will "jump" out
> of the circle. You're now looking out of your non-dominant eye."
>
> Gabriel
>
>
>
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> Message: 20
> Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 20:01:27 -0700
> From: Rory Hinnen <Rory.Hinnen@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Re: Dominant Eye
>
>
> Right handed, right eye dominant.
>
> .r.
>
>
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> Message: 21
> Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 23:36:02 -0400
> From: "Dennis M. Hanser" <dmhanser@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Re: Dominant Eye
>
> Right handed, left eye dominant.
>
>
>
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> Message: 22
> Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 23:54:05 -0400
> From: "Dr. George A. Themelis" <drt-3d@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Re: Dominant Eye
>
> "Dennis M. Hanser" <dmhanser@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >Right handed, left eye dominant.
>
> Hey, there is another great photographer!!!
> I guess I am in the right side :) of the right/left fence.
>
> George
>
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> Message: 23
> Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 00:56:05 -0400
> From: "Dr. George A. Themelis" <drt-3d@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: October OSPS Meeting Report
>
> Another fine meeting in Cleveland this past Tuesday.
> Since that was the night of the first presidential
> debate, I was expecting attendance to be low. To my
> surprise, 36 people showed up, one of the largest
> crowd ever!
>
> In attendance were our regular members from Pittsburgh
> and Michigan and also 4 visitors from Detroit and a
> local gentleman who became our newest member. This
> young fellow works at Case Western Reserve University
> in the visual arts department and he is into photography
> and virtual reality. He was so impressed and excited
> with stereo photography that he bought a Stereo Realist
> right at the spot. (A local camera dealer has joined
> our club from sincere interest in stereo and he managed
> to sell two Realists last night!)
>
> Our club meetings have two parts. Last night the first
> part was "Member's Presentations" while the second part
> was a stereo slide competition with assignment "Bubbles
> and Balloons".
>
> The Member's Presentations are informal presentations
> lasting from 5 to 20 minutes. We schedule more than
> one presentations to take about 45 minutes total. Last
> meeting we had the following presentations:
>
> - Harold Kaiman "3d imaging in Medical Science"
> - Chuck Weiss "Pilgrimage to the Holy Land and Rome"
> - George Themelis "Scenes from the NSA convention in Mesa"
> - Mark Dottle "Restoration of a TDC stereo projector"
>
> Perhaps the variety of the these presentations explains
> the larger than expected attendance.
>
> Harold very nicely summarized the topic and his interest
> in it (he is a Radiologist) and promised to follow up
> with an article in our newsletter and a View-Master
> presentation next month.
>
> Chuck showed excellent stereo slides with his usual
> very interesting & engaging narration.
>
> I showed slides that Ron Fross and myself took during
> the NSA convention in Mesa this past July. In addition
> to some spectacular 3d by the pool shots, our members
> had the chance to "meet" stereo personalities like Jon
> Golden, Dalia Miller, Dave Kesner, Paul Talbot, Paul
> Wing, Robert Bloomberg, Boris Starosta, Frank Flocks,
> John Dukes, Grant Campos, Dennis Green and many more
> that I forget. (No pictures of the "fist fight" though.)
>
> Mark Dottle did a great job restoring his TDC projector
> that was almost destroyed in a house fire two years
> ago. The finish and paint job in this projector was
> beyond my imagination. Much better than new, while
> still maintaining the 1950s character. Well done Mark!
>
> In our slide competition we had a unique situation where
> all 8 awarded slides tied in first place. So each one of
> these 8 slides took first place and there were no second
> or third places or HMs. I happened to have 3 out of
> these 8 slides, an unfair advantage of being a judge for
> the night. The top score was 23 points which means that
> one judge gave a 7, the other a 8 and rounded up I got
> an 8 which gave me 23. Oh well... I'll do what Mark
> is doing this season, not enter the next few competitions.
>
> One of these 8 slides (Robert Grant's daughter blowing
> bubbles) took the "people's vote" so in that respect this
> was no. 1. (We allow our attendants to vote for their
> favorite slide and the winner gets an extra point in the
> standings.) This was also my favorite slide of the night.
>
> The interesting thing about Robert's slide is that it was
> mounted seconds before the start of the meeting. Five
> minutes before we were ready to start Robert asked me if
> I had a 4p RBT mount. We walked all the way in the back
> of my office to get one. So Robert managed to mount his
> slide the last second and what a good job he did! This
> says a lot for both Robert and RBT!
>
> After the competition Robert said that he owes me a
> favor and he plans to keep the mount. Kidddingly I said
> that he owed me more than that and I ended up richer
> by $0.60.
>
> Overall, a fine meeting. You will read all the details
> in Stereogram 5.3, with added pictures of Mark's projector
> the usual tutorials and more.
>
> Thanks for reading!
>
> George Themelis
>
>
>
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> Message: 24
> Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 05:57:48 -0000
> From: "Chris Cavigioli" <chris-c@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Anaglyphs on the computer/PowerPoint presentations
>
> I created anaglyphs from Olympus D-600L digital camera single photos
> at various stereo separations and then tried to sequence them such
> that you could witness the hypo-stereo or hyper-stereo effect as a
> moving picture sequence of anaglyphs.
>
> I used Paint Shop Pro 4.14 to create the gray-scale anaglyphs from
> the
> color .jpg camera images. Each individual anaglyph turned out pretty
> good.
>
> I projected the resulting sequence of anaglyphs from my laptop using
> an In-Focus LCD projector a few months ago at the Oakland Camera Club
> Stereoscopic Division club meeting in Oakland, CA.
>
> The result was not as spectacular as I expected. I had three basic
> problems:
>
> (1)
> Several anaglyph viewing glasses variants failed to block the red
> part
> of the anaglyph. This was the biggest problem. It was sometimes
> hard to fuse the image when the red filter was leaking double images.
>
> I tried red-green glasses and reg-cyan glasses, but the problem was
> the red color, not the green or cyan. I haven't found glasses with a
> different red color. They all seem to use the same 'red'.
> ---> possibly the red needs to be tuned to the laptop LCD display or
> the In-Focus LCD projection image ... and it wasn't
> ---> possibly the color in the anaglyphs could be manipulated to
> match
> the red in the viewing glasses, but I haven't figured out how to do
> that in Paint Shop Pro 4.14. any ideas?
>
> (2)
> In creating the anaglyph from stereo pairs, I just pasted L and R
> image exactly on top of each other. Perhaps some shifting of the
> images would need to happen to create the correct stereo window, but:
> (a) I'm not sure if this is true ... any ideas?
> (b) I don't know how to shift one image using Paint Shop Pro 4.14
> (c) The resulting image would need to be further cropped to
> eliminate
> the 'junk' around the edge of the non-overlapping images.
>
> (3)
> I did not use a precision slide bar or rail, so I may have had some
> rotational or translational distortion in the images which I was
> forced to overlap exactly (without shifting).
>
> If anyone has experienced better results than I did, I would love to
> learn more and re-visit this project and do it right.
>
> -chris in SF
>
>
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> Message: 25
> Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 02:30:15 -0500
> From: Linda Nygren <lnygren@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Re: Dominant Eye
>
> My comments on eye dominance were not based on "science", except that
> they are based on my empiric observations of my own vision, as with the
> "test" previously mentioned. My right eye dominance is a definite and
> consistently observed phenomenon, as in the "tests" described with
> looking through a small circle at arms length: my brain perceives the
> background image seen by my right eye and ignores the left background
> when my eyes are converged on a near object (the circle or my thumb),
> presumably to avoid seeing a double image in the background.
>
> I expect that most people would tend to use their "dominant eye" when
> looking through a camera viewfinder or observing a stereoview or
> anything else with one eye, and this is indeed the case for me. But
> admittedly some people have a much stronger hand preference than others,
> and can be "switch hitters" when it is to their advantage; likewise I
> suspect that the eye *preference* may be more influenced by practice and
> "habit", whereas eye *dominance* may be more hard-wired in the brain
> like handedness tends to be.
>
> My idle speculation also goes toward whether people with a *less strong*
> eye preference (more "ambi-ocular") might have an advantage in binocular
> stereo vision, or somehow are more aware of bincular cues than those
> with a stronger eye dominance who might have to "work at it" harder on
> some level to pay attention to both eyes' input.
>
> The speculation about "cross dominance" (between eye and hand dominance)
> being correlated with good stereophotographic ability is an interesting
> hypothesis, and it would be not be inconceivable that the associated
> neuroanatomy might be correlated somehow with better spacial perceptive
> abilities, which could clearly be an advantage to a stereo photographer.
> But I am not planning any scientific studies to test the hypothesis, and
> am not aware of any that have been done.
>
> And now not only do I have to continue to struggle along as one of the
> "inferior" majority of right handed folks (according to many lefty
> activists), but I also have to live with the additional handicap of also
> being right eye dominant. Sigh. -Linda
>
> Herbert C Maxey wrote:
> >
> > >>"Cross dominant" would be e.g. left handed but right eye dominant, or
> > >>vice versa. I am right eyed and right handed, myself. I am also right
> > >>footed
> >
> > So is there any actual science behind all these comments and
suppositions
> > or are you all just guessing? There must be some specific stereo tests
> > that can be performed to determine if you are "Dominant" in either eye.
> > And I am not too sure if these are very accurate either. At the
> > beginning, it was surmised that the eye one chooses to view one side of
a
> > stereo pair makes that you "Dominant" eye. I think you would have to
find
> > a reputable expert to agree that this is the actual case. I think it has
> > more to do with a habit you develop.
> >
> > At dinner tonight, I asked my brother to look at a stereo card with one
> > eye closed. He is right handed and closed the right eye. His wife is
also
> > right handed, but closed her left eye. My mom is left handed, as am I,
> > and I close my right eye and so does she. I kick with my right foot and
I
> > play left handed guitar.
> >
> > My dog herman lost a leg when he was run over, so I did not ask him - it
> > would have skewed the results.
> >
> > This is a fascinating subject to me, but I would like to see some real
> > science, not just supposition.
> >
> > Bob
>
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