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T3D Dead FED cell
- From: john bercovitz <bercov@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: T3D Dead FED cell
- Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 18:34:32 -0700
I went on a field trip with the camera club last weekend and did
my usual FED thing. I got out in the field (away from my camera
bag) and _then_ tried to fire the FED and found the cell was dead.
Again. I don't know how many times I've done this. I am a very
slow learner. 8-( Fortunately I also had my N70 (yes, I own a
few flatties) and the loaner RBT with me so the only enduring
annoyance was the extra weight. I'm FED UP with dead cells and
I've been swearing I would install a switch in the bottom panel
but now I mean it! 8-) Pursuant to this, I checked my old notes
and made some new ones but was unsuccessful in finding the right
switch, today. I will persevere this time.
***Old notes:
original FED cell:
0.455" (11.56 mm) diameter
0.211" (5.36 mm) height
test @75 degrees Fahrenheit:
load, ohms voltage, V current, mA
No Load (NL) 1.562 0
510 1.528 3.0
NL 1.558 0
270 1.510 5.6
NL 1.556 0
100 1.459 14.6
NL 1.555 0
NL (later) 1.559 0
NL (much later) 1.563 0
The original appears to be like a silver oxide #76 cell which
is a Radio Shack SR44, a Burgess 76SO, an Eveready S76, an
RCA VS1776, a NEDA 1107SO, a Ray-O-Vac RS76, a Mallory MS76.
Duracell says these are .455 diam x .210 high, 180 mAh
and Kodak says they are .457 diameter x .213 high, 160 mAh.
According to the Burgess catalog, the cell should read
1.56 V for a few hours under load and then drop to 1.5.
Burgess diam. is .455 +0/-.010, height .200 +/- .008.
MS076 Duracell silver-oxide cell:
load, ohms voltage, V current, mA
No Load (NL) 1.566 0
510 1.500 3.0
NL 1.546 0
270 1.468 5.6
NL 1.547 0
100 1.459 14.6
NL 1.553 0
***Today's notes:
Energizer (Eveready) #303 silver oxide
load, ohms voltage, V, rounded off
NL 1.57
1K 1.55
510 1.52
With the Energizer, I did load tests at various light levels.
Wide open with a flood a foot away from the sensor, I got 1 ma.
With the ASA dial turned so that there was no hole in front of
the sensor, in a dimly lit room, I got 0.1 ma. With the sensor
covered, I got .03 ma. I imagine this last resembles the current
when the camera is in the camera bag. So cell life would be
170/.03 = 5700 hours This is less than a year and probably is
a pretty good approximation of how long these cells are lasting
me. Sensor dark impedance must be 1.57 V /.03 mA = 52K. So if
I install a switch to improve cell life, the switch must have an
open impedance which is >>> 52K. This should be trivial.
I took the bottom cover off the camera (this doesn't hurt
anything) and found that I have a space about 1/2" on a side in
which to install a switch. So there's plenty of space; the only
problem will be finding a good gold plated slide switch. The
wires to the cell holder are long so it will be easy to install
a switch without even adding any wire.
John B
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