re: Character of the list

[P3D Gabriel Jacob <jacob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Dr. George A. Themelis writes

>>Gabriel writes
>>There have been some critisms of P3D being
>>monopolized by computer grahics ,which I don't see to be the case. There
>>is a healthy mix from both sides (I use this with reservation, because
>>there shouldn't be any sides) and IMHO I see more regular 3d film
>>photography discussed here if you ask me.

>Dr. T writes
>"More"?  More than what?  More than 50%? Or more than the percentage
>of involvement of computer graphics in stereoscopic imaging?

First, yes more.
Second, more than non-film photography.
Third, yes more than 50%, rough estimate.
Fourth, yes.
Those are my cut and dry answers.;-)
I am not complaining mind you, just want to make that point clear as
I stated in my previous post.

>
>Everybody in P3D has access to a computer.  Not everybody has a 
>stereo camera or has ever created/recorded a single stereoscopic image.
>This list is not representative of the present status of stereoscopic
>imaging in the world.  It is populated by young people many of which
>have an active interest in computers.  The old & experienced stereo
>photographers, the legends of stereo photoraphy are not here.  The 
>voice of experience is missing.  The legends of stereo photography 
>are not here.  I could list 100 names from David Starkman, Susan
>Pinsky, John Dennis, Ron Zakowski,..., to David Burder, Colin Clay, 
>etc. who are not here (or, if they are, they are hidding!)  On the 
>other hand, the ones who are here (Dr. T, etc.) are virtually uknown 
>to the world of 3d in large.
>
>Note:  This is not an opinion.  It is a fact.  OK, I do not have
>the hard data but I have no doubt that if Bob Wier ever bothers to 
>collect and release statistics of age and years in stereoscopic 
>involvement for photo-3d members and compares them with same data 
>for stereo workers world-wide, I am sure the gap will be clear.

Yes George, it probably as you state above and never said otherwise.

>I am not saying that this is good or bad.  I am just saying that it
>is a fact.  Feel free to dispute the facts and discuss opinions, 
>but, please don't say that I have a problem with the character of the 
>list!
>
>Thank you!  -- George Themelis

Your welcome, and I appreciate your comments but George I never disputed
or said counter to what you mention. It's probably very true. All I said
was that I feel there is more discussion relevent to film 3d photography
as opposed to other 3d stuff. Now as you say and I don't disagree, this
group is probably populated by more computer background people. This being
said thou doesn't mean that these people tend to be more into 3d computers
than film 3d. Example yourself. You use a computer and your relatively
young, yet you use film photograhy. Another point. Even IF most of the 
list members are more into computer 3d. They are not as vocal in their
expressing or posting their views. Finally if these distinguished 3d film
photography members of the 3d community at large are not represented here
it is all our loss and theirs.

Gabriel


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